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		<title>And Her Majesty says that Her Government can fuck off</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2012/02/10/and-her-majesty-says-that-her-government-can-fuck-off/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right off, you understand. An alert reader (be a lert, your blog needs lerts!) sent me this: According to Margaret Rhodes, the Queen&#8217;s cousin, HM&#8217;s alcohol intake never varies. She takes a gin and Dubonnet before lunch, with a slice of lemon and a lot of ice. She will take wine with lunch and a [...]]]></description>
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<p>An alert reader (be a lert, your blog needs lerts!) sent <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&#038;objectid=10784811">me this</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>According to Margaret Rhodes, the Queen&#8217;s cousin, HM&#8217;s alcohol intake never varies. She takes a gin and Dubonnet before lunch, with a slice of lemon and a lot of ice. She will take wine with lunch and a dry Martini and a glass of champagne in the evening. That comes to six units a day, which would make Her Majesty a binge drinker by Government standards.</p></blockquote>
<p>Could be more than 6 units, depends on the heavy or not hand there. And I will admit that I prefer not the lunch part. Same consumption, a cocktail, some wine, perhaps a cognac or a port after dinner. 6-8 units a day&#8230;..8-10 with that hand.</p>
<p>HM is 88&#8230;clearly booze kills&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>They&#8217;re not even pretending now, are they?</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2012/02/08/theyre-not-even-pretending-now-are-they/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prime Minister David Cameron is known to have sympathy with the idea of minimum pricing, which medics say could save nearly 10,000 lives per year if set at 50p per unit. Gosh, that&#8217;s amazing. Alcohol related deaths in the UK rose to 9,031 in 2008, up from 8,724 the previous year. Rilly? A slight rise [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Prime Minister David Cameron is known to have sympathy with the idea of minimum pricing, which medics say could save nearly 10,000 lives per year if set at 50p per unit. </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9067332/Alcoholic-drinks-to-get-weaker-says-minister.html">Gosh</a>, that&#8217;s <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8485122.stm">amazing</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Alcohol related deaths in the UK rose to 9,031 in 2008, up from 8,724 the previous year.</p></blockquote>
<p>Rilly? A slight rise in the cost of cheap booze will save more lives per year than are lost to all booze?</p>
<p>Hey, why not put it up to £50 a unit and we&#8217;ll all live forever?</p>
<p>Forgive me the crudity but I&#8217;ve really had it with cunts lying to get their bandwagons rolling.</p>
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		<title>You know those booze admissions figures?</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2011/12/30/you-know-those-booze-admissions-figures/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, million peeps turning up at A&#38;E each year with booze related injuries? Well, yes, it&#8217;s not booze related injuries, not A&#38;E and it&#8217;s most certainly not patients. It&#8217;s admissions. The number of NHS patients who have to undergo emergency readmission to hospital within a month of being discharged has increased by more than [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, million peeps turning up at A&amp;E each year with booze related injuries?</p>
<p>Well, yes, it&#8217;s not booze related injuries, not A&amp;E and it&#8217;s most certainly not patients. It&#8217;s <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8983505/Scandal-of-NHS-production-line.html"><em>admissions</em></a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The number of NHS patients who have to undergo emergency readmission to hospital within a month of being discharged has increased by more than three quarters in the last decade, the Daily Telegraph can disclose.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, the NHS sending people away and then bringing them back in, this might actually be a very good idea. Hospitals are,. afer all, very dangerous places and doctors, nurses, hospital and medical treatment (so called &#8220;iatrogenic&#8221; causes) one of the leading causes of death.</p>
<p>But leave that aside and consider just the idea that we&#8217;ve these more readmissions. That makes the number of admissions for alcohol related diseases go up. Because we are not counting &#8220;came in glassed having got boozed up&#8221;, we&#8217;re counting &#8220;came in for this, that&#8217;s 0.3 of an alcohol related admission&#8221;.</p>
<p>And note that in our booze related admission figures we are not told that the portion of all admissions has gone up. No, we&#8217;re told that the actual number has gone up. Without being told that readmissions are up 75%, that total admissions are up 40%.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re being lied to in short. The bastards.</p>
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		<title>See how statistical lies make the world a worse place?</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2011/12/28/see-how-statistical-lies-make-the-world-a-worse-place/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Mr Potato Head has been convinced by the lies. The Prime Minister has ordered officials to develop a scheme in England to stop the sale of alcohol at below 40p to 50p a unit in shops and supermarkets. Ministers could copy Scottish proposals, which would ban the sale of alcohol below 45p a unit, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Mr Potato Head has been convinced <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/8979765/David-Cameron-plans-minimum-price-for-alcohol-in-England.html">by the lies</a>.</p>
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<blockquote><p>The Prime Minister has ordered officials to develop a scheme in England to stop the sale of alcohol at below 40p to 50p a unit in shops and supermarkets.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p>Ministers could copy Scottish proposals, which would ban the sale of alcohol below 45p a unit, or bring in a more sophisticated system of taxes based on the number of alcohol units contained in the drink.</p></blockquote>
<p>Those lies being:</p>
<blockquote><p>Figures published earlier this month showed that twice as many people were being treated in hospital because of alcohol misuse compared with 10 years ago.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, no they don&#8217;t. The figures show twice as many admissions for diseases which are defined as being alcohol related. 0.3 of an admission for hypertensive disease, for example.</p>
<p>What we&#8217;re not told (although it can be divined from the figures) is that a) total admissions have gone up by some 40-50%, b) the population is ageing so those diseases which are defined as alcohol related (ie, hypertensive diseases) will have more admissions and c) we&#8217;ve got, as we all know, an &#8220;obesity epidemic&#8221;, meaning that admissions for obesity related diseases will also be up and, amazing though you may find it, many of the diseases that are &#8220;alcohol related&#8221; are also &#8220;obesity related&#8221;.</p>
<p>In other words the scumbag lying shits who compile the statistics are lying to us. Deliberately, through the method they use to compile the statistics.</p>
<blockquote><p>Dr Sarah Wollaston, an MP on the Common’s health committee and a former GP, said that alcohol misuse was costing the nation £20 billion, or £800 for every family.</p></blockquote>
<p>As we&#8217;ve said around here many times, there&#8217;s a problem with this number. That sure, there&#8217;s a cost to booze, just like there&#8217;s a cost to tofu. The question is, what&#8217;s the benefit to put against that cost? With booze, the enjoyment offered must be higher than the amount spent on booze. That is, people are made happier by more than £50 billion because that&#8217;s the sort of amount people spend on booze.</p>
<p>Oh, and the number that no one seems to want to acknowledge? Alcohol consumption is falling.</p>
<p>But those lies are out there, they&#8217;ve been repeated enough that the fuckwits that rule us actually believe them.</p>
<p>We really are going to have to get around to hanging the cunts that lie so grievously, aren&#8217;t we?</p>
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		<title>Another statistic that will be abused</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2011/12/21/another-statistic-that-will-be-abused/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Researchers found people who live rough are likely to die more than 30 years earlier than the average British person. According to new figures homeless people will die in their 40s &#8211; men on average at 47 while women have a life expectancy of 43. The homeless life expectancy rate compares to that in the [...]]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>Researchers found people who live rough are likely to die more than 30 years earlier than the average British person.</p></blockquote>
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<p>According to new figures homeless people will die in their 40s &#8211; men on average at 47 while women have a life expectancy of 43.</p>
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<blockquote><p>The homeless life expectancy rate compares to that in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, central Africa. In stark contrast, the average age of death for the general population in Britain currently is 77 years.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8969578/Homeless-women-die-by-age-43.html">I&#8217;ve no</a> doubt that is true: with a certain caveat.</p>
<p>What they&#8217;ve found is that the average age of death of those living rough is 47 and 43.</p>
<p>Which isn&#8217;t the same at all as saying that living rough makes you die at those ages. For people move in and out of living rough. So what has been selected for is those who die while living rough&#8230;..who do indeed die at 47 and 43 on average.</p>
<p>You might think this is a trivial distinction but it isn&#8217;t. By definition the measurement is of those who have died while living rough, not a measure of what living rough for some period of time, long or short, does to life span.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s not a great number to use in the first place. But here&#8217;s how it will be abused:</p>
<blockquote><p>Separate figures, meanwhile, have shown that almost 70,000 children will wake up on Christmas Day in temporary accommodation, without a home to call their own.</p></blockquote>
<p>We have a number of different definitions of homeless. There&#8217;s the one we all understand, that living rough one. People without a roof over their heads. Then at the other extreme there&#8217;s the one used by the homlessness industry like, say, Shelter. Someone living in unsuitable accomodation without a secure tenancy.</p>
<p>Again an important distinction. From memory, on any one night, there are 300 to 400 people living rough in London, a city of 8 million people. According to the likes of Shelter there are hundreds of thousands of &#8220;homeless&#8221;.</p>
<p>The abuse of these numbers and definitions will start soon enough. Someone will pop up and tell us that we must have more social housing otherwise hundreds of thousands will die at 43.</p>
<p>One other thing:</p>
<blockquote><p>The new study into living rough, titled &#8220;Homelessness: A silent killer&#8221;, found suicide rates were nine times higher among homeless people than the general population.</p>
<p>They also found drug and alcohol abuse accounted for more than a third of all deaths among people living rough.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the research found deaths as a result of traffic accidents were three times as likely, infections twice as likely and falls are more than three times as likely to result in death.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not a great surprise. To be living rough for any great length of time these days it is pretty much necessary to be an alcoholic, drug addict or mentally ill.</p>
<p>And what we&#8217;d really like to know is, what is the average age of death of these groups so that we can compare it to the age of death of those living rough? For that is what will tell us about the effect of living rough, not a comparison with the general population.</p>
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		<title>Lying bastards on the letters page</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[About booze: Each year, alcohol causes the admission of over a million people to hospital, No, it does not. The measurement is actually the number of admissions, not the number of people admitted. Let us assume that we&#8217;ve got an alcoholic, one who tumbles over regularly when pissed. How many admissions will he have in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/letters/8954825/Cost-of-cheap-alcohol.html">About booze</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Each year, alcohol causes the admission of over a million people to hospital,</p></blockquote>
<p>No, it does not. The measurement is actually the number of admissions, not the number of people admitted. Let us assume that we&#8217;ve got an alcoholic, one who tumbles over regularly when pissed. How many admissions will he have in a year?</p>
<p>Quite.</p>
<p>Oh, and it&#8217;s not admissions caused by alcohol either. It is the number of admissions which we asssume are related to alcohol, 0.3 of a hypertensive disorder admission and so on.</p>
<p>No  one, no one at all, is actually counting the number of admissions caused by alcohol.</p>
<p>So, from the second sentence, we know you&#8217;re lying bastards.</p>
<blockquote><p>In 2010, alcohol was 44 per cent more affordable than it was in 1980,</p></blockquote>
<p>So are jeans, phone calls and bread. What you&#8217;ve shown there is that the country has got richer. Hurrah!</p>
<blockquote><p>There is a push towards a minimum price for each unit of alcohol in the devolved nations of the United Kingdom, with the SNP leading the debate in Scotland. This is a simple and effective mechanism for the Scottish Government to control alcohol prices.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s a particularly stupid method as all it does is boost the profit margins of the alcohol makers. Oh, as well as being illegal under EU law.</p>
<blockquote><p>With alcohol harm costing us an estimated £25 billion each year, MPs must act now.</p></blockquote>
<p>And what a delightfully made up number. However, as has been pointed out many times before, there are costs and benefits to all things. People drink because they like it, the pleasure of the booze is worth the pain purchasing it brings on in the wallet. Thus the value to the populace of booze must be higher than what the populace spends on booze. Over£50 billion then.</p>
<p>We get twice as much out of booze as booze gets out of us, even by your absurd and inflated figure.</p>
<p>So you can bugger offn&#8217;all, you puritan prodnoses.</p>
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		<title>Nonsense</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still, every now and then one comes across a mercifully practical piece of parenting wisdom. The Australian psychologist Steve Biddulph recommends that, as soon as both parents arrive home from work, they should sit down together with a stiff drink. The alcohol, he says, will make them more relaxed – and thus better parents. You [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Still, every now and then one comes across a mercifully practical piece of parenting wisdom. The Australian psychologist Steve Biddulph recommends that, as soon as both parents arrive home from work, they should sit down together with a stiff drink. The alcohol, he says, will make them more relaxed – and thus better parents.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/8881755/A-stiff-drink-will-help-your-child-with-his-anger-issues.html">You give</a> the gin to the screaming child.</p>
<p>Just make sure you&#8217;ve still got gripe water* in the house: wouldn&#8217;t want the child protection people coming around.</p>
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<p>*Gripe water is essentially booze and sugar. An alcopop in fact which is why kiddies like it so much.</p>
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		<title>Tory MP ignorant. We&#8217;re surprised, right?</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2011/10/12/tory-mp-ignorant-were-surprised-right/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This really is cretinous stupidity. The costs to our economy of productivity lost at work, together with the criminal justice and health bill, put the financial drain as high as £55bn. There is no such thing as a cheap drink; we are all paying a very heavy price. Sigh. Leave aside that this is simply [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really is <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/11/scourge-cheap-booze-minimum-pricing">cretinous stupidity</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The costs to our economy of productivity lost at work, together with the criminal justice and health bill, put the financial drain as high as £55bn. There is no such thing as a cheap drink; we are all paying a very heavy price.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Sigh</em>. Leave aside that this is simply an invented number (only two years ago it was around £20 billion).</p>
<p>What is the benefit of booze? The pleasure that people get from boozing of course. How can we measure the value, in cold hard cash, of that benefit, that pleasure?</p>
<p>The amount that people spend on booze of course. No one who thinks that 50p in their pocket is more valuable than a pint of cheap cider will exchange the 50p for the pint of cheap cider. Thus the pint of cheap cider which people do exchange 50p for must be worth more to that person than 50p.</p>
<p>The value to, the pleasure gained from, the boozer of booze must be greater than the amount spent by the boozer on booze.</p>
<p>How much do we spend on booze? From memory it&#8217;s around £55 billion a year actually.</p>
<p>So, actually, even by our idiot Tory MP&#8217;s reasoning, we&#8217;re not paying any price at all: we&#8217;re getting at least as much benefit from boozing as it costs us. Excellent, fuck off then.</p>
<p>But it gets worse:</p>
<p>An alcohol strategy that would work should include the following: minimum pricing of 50p a unit,</p>
<p>The problem with this is that it just increases the profits of the booze industry. It&#8217;s also, as far as I know, illegal under EU rules. But even if not, we&#8217;re still just increasing profits. To which our idiot Tory MP says yes but:</p>
<blockquote><p>To those who feel that minimum pricing would just hand greater profits to the drinks industry, there are many suggestions: varying VAT between on- and off-licensed premises to offset a rise in duty without penalising pubs or clubs, or a levy on unopened bottles of between 5p and 10p per unit.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which is exactly the point that we&#8217;re all trying to make. Vary the taxes you idiot, if you want to change the price. Don&#8217;t just boost the industry profits, get more money for the Treasury!</p>
<p>Just if any politician should happen to pass by just let me explain the logic again here. Minimum prices are a bad idea because it just increases industry profits. If you want to raise the price of alcohol you should raise the taxes on alcohol, so that the Treasury gains the money, not the industry. The response &#8220;well, we&#8217;ll change taxes to deal with the problems of minimum prices&#8221; doesn&#8217;t work. Just change the taxes and forget the minimum prices.</p>
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		<title>The latest nonsense about booze</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2011/08/30/the-latest-nonsense-about-booze/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 06:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Figures last year suggested that binge-drinking injuries cost the NHS more than £2.7 billion a year. They showed that almost a million people a year were taken to hospital after drinking – a rise of 47 per cent since 2004. This isn&#8217;t actually what the figures show at all: The big (old) news is that there [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Figures last year suggested that binge-drinking injuries cost the NHS more than £2.7 billion a year. They showed that almost a million people a year were taken to hospital after drinking – a rise of 47 per cent since 2004.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/8730010/Punters-could-pay-tax-to-cover-cost-of-clearing-up-mess-caused-by-binge-drinking.html">This isn&#8217;t</a> actually what the figures <a href="http://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.com/2011/08/million-alcohol-related-hospital.html">show at all</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The big (old) news is that there were more than a million alcohol-related hospital admissions last year in the UK despite (and this is rarely mentioned) alcohol consumption having been in decline for the last eight years, and despite (this is <em>never</em> mentioned) Britain having the third highest alcohol taxes in the world. This is a doubling in admissions in less than a decade. A truly remarkable phenomenon, if true.</p>
<p>In my naïvité, I always imagined that it was doctors and nurses who decided whether a hospital admission was alcohol-related, but then I read <a href="http://www.straightstatistics.org/article/drink-and-disease-how-figures-can-confuse">this post</a> at the always informative <a href="http://www.straightstatistics.org/article/drink-and-disease-how-figures-can-confuse">Straight Statistics</a>, which explains that hospital admissions data are divided up according to various assumptions. For example, it is assumed that 20% of all stomach cancer admissions are alcohol-related, half of epilepsy admissions are alcohol-related and a quarter of admissions for extreme cold are alcohol-related.</p>
<p>These assumptions are based on individual epidemiological studies which may or may not reflect the true risks. Whether true or not, if a man goes to hospital complaining of hypertension, he will make up a quarter of an alcohol-related admission, even if he is a teetotaler. If he goes to hospital 8 times, he will have added two alcohol-related admissions to the statistics—remember, these are admissions, not different individuals. The system is called &#8216;alcohol-attributable fractions&#8217; and you can <a href="http://www.nwph.net/nwpho/publications/alcoholattributablefractions.pdf">read all about it here</a> should you wish.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit like those lovely models the Obama Administration uses to show how effective the stimulus has been. If we assume that spending money creates jobs then we can show that having spent money we&#8217;ve created jobs.</p>
<p>If we assume that x fraction of hospital visits are from booze then we can show that x fraction of hospital visits are from booze.</p>
<p>In neither case is anyone actually counting the cases.</p>
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		<title>Wrong about booze again</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2011/08/29/wrong-about-booze-again/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 06:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The report by think tank 2020Health cites research showing that those drinking twice the recommended weekly limits increase their risk of liver disease sevenfold, mouth cancer fivefold and stroke threefold. For women, breast cancer risk doubles. Any potentially beneficial effects of alcohol, such as reducing the risk of a heart attack, are countered by the [...]]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>The report by think tank 2020Health cites research showing that those drinking twice the recommended weekly limits increase their risk of liver disease sevenfold, mouth cancer fivefold and stroke threefold. For women, breast cancer risk doubles.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p>Any potentially beneficial effects of alcohol, such as reducing the risk of a heart attack, are countered by the risks of other diseases, it warns.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8728930/Millions-of-middle-class-Britons-drinking-too-much-claims-report.html">Umm, no</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, there is a trade off, some alcohol reduces the risks of certain diseases, lots of alcohol increases the rsks of others.</p>
<p>But the sweet spot of those trade offs is not at twice the recommended limits. It&#8217;s nearer three times, 50-60 units. It&#8217;s around there that the risks of disease from booze are higher than the risks of no booze: of being teetotal.</p>
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		<title>Surprise!</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2011/08/01/surprise-4/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 06:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[People find that drinking wine helps them to relax more than spending time with their children We needed a survey to tell us this?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>People find that drinking wine helps them to relax more than spending time with their children</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8673384/People-drink-to-counter-that-glass-half-empty-feeling.html">We needed</a> a survey to tell us this?</p>
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		<title>Markets will out</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2011/07/14/markets-will-out/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Five men have been killed and another seriously injured in a huge explosion at a Boston industrial estate amid claims it was sparked by an illegal vodka making operation. Stick the tax up too high and people will homebrew. That people are homebrewing might be an indication that taxes are too high. It&#8217;s a general [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Five men have been killed and another seriously injured in a huge explosion at a Boston industrial estate amid claims it was sparked by an illegal vodka making operation.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8636424/Boston-explosion-five-dead-in-huge-fireball-during-illegal-vodka-brewing-operation.html">Stick the</a> tax up too high and people will homebrew.</p>
<p>That people are homebrewing might be an indication that taxes are too high.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a general point that has to be kept in mind about tax rates. You can&#8217;t assume that everyone is going to obey the law. Yes, of course, distilling (as opposed to brewing) is illegal, it&#8217;s tax evasion not avoidance, but people will still do such things if they perceive tax rates to be too high.</p>
<p>And the very fact that people are doing such evasion is a sign that the people doing it think that rates are too high.</p>
<p>That general point again: tax evasion is proof that the people doing the tax evading think tax rates are too high.</p>
<p>Back to the specific case about booze: do we think that ever higher taxes on booze would lead to more such moonshining? And at what point does the harm caused by the consumption of moonshine ( you&#8217;ve actually got to be good at distilling not to poison people with methyl alcohol) outweigh the harm not done by the law abiding not boozing as a result of the price of booze?</p>
<p>Something for the puritans to ponder perhaps?</p>
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		<title>Wet houses</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2011/04/22/wet-houses/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 08:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent piece here. What do you do with alcoholics who don&#8217;t want to be cured? Get them off the streets of course, out of the emergency rooms, stop arrresting and jailing them. Put them in a &#8220;wet house&#8221;. Just like sheltered living for addicts who want to get off the juice, but let them drink [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/apr/21/alcoholic-drunk-wet-house">Excellent piece here</a>.</p>
<p>What do you do with alcoholics who don&#8217;t want to be cured?</p>
<p>Get them off the streets of course, out of the emergency rooms, stop arrresting and jailing them. Put them in a &#8220;wet house&#8221;. Just like sheltered living for addicts who want to get off the juice, but let them drink while they&#8217;re there.</p>
<p>If they want to drink themselves to death, well, fine, just don&#8217;t do it in the street and frighten the horses.</p>
<p>Now all we need is for the same logic to extend to drugs&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Prohibitionists on the march</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2011/03/15/prohibitionists-on-the-march/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 08:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The cost of alcohol to British society is currently estimated at over £25bn per annum. This is not just the health costs, but also costs relating to crime and disorder, including domestic violence and fights and accidents on the streets. Health workers see the personal costs; we see the fractured families, the individual tragedies of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The cost of <a title="Guardian: Alcohol" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/alcohol">alcohol</a> to British society is currently  estimated at over £25bn per annum. This is not just the health costs,  but also costs relating to crime and disorder, including domestic  violence and fights and accidents on the streets. Health workers see the  personal costs; we see the fractured families, the individual tragedies  of wholly preventable death and disability. And we want action, now, to  start to address this complex problem.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/mar/14/alcohol-responsibility-deal-control">Before we do this</a>, can we have a look at the benefits of alcohol consumption please? As I&#8217;ve said before, there must be some or people wouldn&#8217;t booze, would they?</p>
<p>In a free market, one where people partake of voluntary transactions, the perceived benefit to those handing over their money for a particular good or service must be higher than the amount of cash they hand over for that good or service.</p>
<p>This is something that you implicitly acknowledge when you say that higher prices will lead to less boozing: some will conclude that the pleasure they get from drinking will not be worth the extra cost.</p>
<p>So, we have an easy way of estimating what the drinkers of this country think drinking is worth: more than they pay for it.</p>
<p>They pay of the order of £50 billion for booze. Thus, even if we believe your kitchen sink estimation of the costs, booze makes us colletively, at minimum, £25 billion richer.</p>
<p>At which point you and your fellow prodnoses can bugger off, can&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>Reducing alcohol levels</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2011/03/13/reducing-alcohol-levels/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 07:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heineken announcing this week that it is reducing the strength of “a leading brand” – thought to be the cider Strongbow – by 1pc alcohol by volume, from 5.3pc to 4.3pc as “just the start” of attempts to lower the alcoholic content of its drinks; I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re entirely happy to do this. For booze [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Heineken announcing this week that it is reducing the strength of “a        leading brand” – thought to be the cider Strongbow –        by 1pc alcohol by volume, from 5.3pc to 4.3pc as “just the start”        of attempts to lower the alcoholic content of its drinks;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/8378023/Drink-strength-cut-in-alcohol-pact-to-tackle-bingeing-epidemic.html">I&#8217;m sure</a> they&#8217;re entirely happy to do this.</p>
<p>For booze is taxed on the level of alcohol in it. Reduce the level of alcohol and you redice the tax paid: not that this is likely to mean a cut in the price charged of course.</p>
<p>By anecdote, one of the Watney&#8217;s brands was withdrawn from sale once alcohol levels had to be stated (might have been when Original Gravity had to be displayed) as it was so low in alcohol that it wasn&#8217;t, legally regared as alcoholic.</p>
<p>They had, of course, been charging full whack for it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Does not compute</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2011/02/21/does-not-compute-3/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, the latest booze scare: Sir Richard Thompson, President of the Royal College of Physicians, said: “How many more people have to die from alcohol-related conditions, and how many more families devastated by the consequences before the Government takes the situation as seriously as it took the dangers of tobacco? “We already know from the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, the latest booze <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8336726/250000-deaths-from-alcohol-abuse-unless-Government-acts.html">scare</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Sir Richard Thompson, President of the Royal College of Physicians,  said: “How    many more people have to die from alcohol-related conditions, and how  many    more families devastated by the consequences before the Government  takes the    situation as seriously as it took the dangers of tobacco?</p>
<p>“We already know from the international evidence that the main ways to  reduce    alcohol consumption are to increase the price and reduce the  availability of    alcohol, yet the government continues to discuss implementing marginal     measures while ignoring this evidence.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm. So, that international evidence:</p>
<blockquote><p>Deaths from liver disease have doubled in Britain in recent years while  other    countries such as France have seen “profound” falls thanks in part to    “strict” rules on marketing drink, a strongly-worded article in <em>The     Lancet</em> claims.</p></blockquote>
<p>OK, France is one to copy then.</p>
<blockquote><p>In France, “very strict regulation of alcohol marketing” and a market    “saturated with cheap wine” led to the industry focusing on increasing     quality, and so reducing deaths.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh. So what we actually want to do is flood the country with cheap cider so that manufacturers concentrate upon quality not quantity then.</p>
<p>You know, do as the French.</p>
<p>Which leads us to the question: Has Sir Richard Thompson actually read the report he is pontificating about?</p>
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		<title>British boozing: about average really</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[However separate figures that strip out teetotals (14.4 per cent of Britons) show that drinkers in Britain consume an average 15.6 litres of pure alcohol. Women drink 9.50 litres and men manage 21.5. On this calculation, however, Britain is out-drunk by about half the countries in the world including Muslim majority nations such as Egypt [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8330796/Average-amount-drunk-in-UK-is-16th-highest-worldwide.html">However</a> separate figures that strip out teetotals (14.4 per cent of  Britons)    show that drinkers in Britain consume an average 15.6 litres of pure    alcohol. Women drink 9.50 litres and men manage 21.5.</p>
<p>On this calculation, however, Britain is out-drunk by about half the  countries    in the world including Muslim majority nations such as Egypt and Iraq.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t understand this</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2011/02/17/im-afraid-i-dont-understand-this/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The government&#8217;s &#8220;responsibility&#8221; deal on alcohol looks likely to fall apart as health experts, angered by the limited concessions required of the drinks industry, consider walking away from the table. The deal, between the industry, the government and health experts – including the chiefs of groups such as Alcohol Concern and the British Liver Trust, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The government&#8217;s &#8220;responsibility&#8221; deal on <a title="More from  guardian.co.uk on Alcohol" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/alcohol">alcohol</a> looks likely to fall apart as  health experts, angered by the limited concessions required of the  drinks industry, consider walking away from the table.</p>
<p>The deal,  between the industry, the government and health experts – including the  chiefs of groups such as Alcohol Concern and the British Liver Trust, as  well as senior doctors working on alcohol-related health problems – was  billed, when launched last summer, as a fresh, collaborative approach  to a serious public health problem.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/feb/16/alcohol-policy-health-experts-revolt">So</a>?</p>
<p>Now me, I&#8217;m of the impression that we&#8217;re a parliamentary democracy. Not a corporatist state.</p>
<p>If some fake charity dressed up as a part of &#8220;civil society&#8221; like Alcohol Concern (in reality, just a fig leaf for the prodnoses who would have all joy and fun sucked from the world) decide that they don&#8217;t like the laws that the government is going to pass, or are unhappy with &#8220;the deal&#8221; being made well, fine, fuck off then.</p>
<p>Who in buggery elected you?</p>
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		<title>Bravo, bravo!</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2011/02/16/bravo-bravo-10/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.com/2011/02/sincere-apology-from-bbc-to-drinkers.html">*</a></p>
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		<title>On moderate drinking</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 11:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sextarius, a Roman measure for liquids&#8230;. This measure held two cotylae, or heminae, being about an English pint and a half&#8230;. The sextarius was also the sixth part of a congius, a liquid measure of ten libra in weight (about one gallon). It was the moderate quantity of wine which persons of sober habits drank [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sextarius, a Roman measure for liquids&#8230;. This measure held two  cotylae, or heminae, being about an English pint and a half&#8230;. The  sextarius was also the sixth part of a congius, a liquid measure of ten  libra in weight (about one gallon). It was the moderate quantity of wine  which persons of sober habits drank at their meals&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2011/02/roman-measures.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BradDelongsSemi-dailyJournal+%28Brad+DeLong%27s+Semi-Daily+Journal%29">Hmm</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s (using American pints) .7 of a litre or so, or 4 ish of a standard modern <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/3303805.stm">glass of wine</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Nowadays, a standard glass of wine is served in a 175ml  glass and is often up to 13% ABV, which adds up to 2.3 units.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm, so a moderate quantity of wine which a person of sober habits would have with their meal was about 9 units.</p>
<blockquote><p>We are told, for instance, that for women 14 units of alcohol a week is the recommended limit, and for men 21</p></blockquote>
<p>So Roman women could have one and a half meals a week, Roman men two and a half.</p>
<p>No wonder they&#8217;re all dead then.</p>
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