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This is a fascinating piece of hubris

The Sun should ditch Page 3 and make the paper relevant for today\’s reader

That\’s one of the editorial staff of The Guardian telling The Sun what it should print.

You know, one of the people running a falling circulation and grossly loss making paper telling the people running a profitable newspaper how to make it \”relevant\”.

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James P
James P
12 years ago

My favourite p.3 story is about the girl who posed for them and when told that her fee would be £80 (this is some time ago) she promptly got her purse out…

Luis Enrique
Luis Enrique
12 years ago

it’s breathtaking isn’t it?

and what does “relevant” mean? A reasonable proportion of male teenagers are extremely keen on looking at naked women, does that make pictures of naked women “relevant” to them?

Pogo
Pogo
12 years ago

@Luis Enrique… I can assure you that it is not just male teenagers… This old josser still has his spirits lifted by the sight of a nicely-turned ankle! 🙂

Ian B
Ian B
12 years ago

Apparently, posting a comment politely asking where their Mens’ blog is is not in compliance with their community standards…

John Galt
12 years ago

“Apparently, posting a comment politely asking where their Mens’ blog is is not in compliance with their community standards…”

Are you talking about The Sun or The Grauniad?

Flatcap Army
Flatcap Army
12 years ago

the problem Guardianistas have is one of arrogance – they believe the paper sets opinion and that their readers therefore cleave to the paper’s line on stuff, whereas Murdoch’s genius is to realise that the arrow of causality runs the other way and that people read papers that reflect and agree with their already existing opinions. In essence the Graun thinks that men stare at tits because they read the Sun, whereas in fact they read the Sun because they like looking at tits. There isn’t a piece of research anywhere in the world ever that shows that a paper can change the opinions of its readership – if it goes against the grain people stop buying it.

The Sage
The Sage
12 years ago

Isn’t the Guardianista point of view is that making a profit is evil, and making a loss virtuous? They’re just trying to nudge The Sun onto the path of righteous relevance.

Steve
Steve
12 years ago

“while of course there are far worse instances of misogyny and abuse to worry about, the No More Page 3 campaign has garnered lots of attention and 107,000 signatories so far.”

Seeing a perky pair of tits on a comely lass who volunteered to be photographed is “misogyny” and “abuse”.

Steve
Steve
12 years ago

Luis – “relevant” is one of those leftie Newspeak buzzwords. In this context, it means “tediously politically correct”.

Just as “vibrant” means “ghetto”, “diversity” means “fewer white men”, “investment” means “spending”, and “check your privilege” means “shut up”.

Squander Two
12 years ago

Flatcap Army,

One of my favourite stats is the fact that, through the Thatcher years, when The Sun unequivocally supported her, about half their readership voted Labour.

Guardian-readers are fond of claiming that Sun-readers are mindless morons who just think whatever the paper tells them to, but the evidence is against them. Meanwhile, find a Guardian-reader who’ll vote Conservative, or support a reduction in income tax, or think the handgun ban goes too far.

Rob
Rob
12 years ago

It is actually a tremendous distraction from the very real problem of ‘Asian’ gangs sexually exploiting white under age girls, but for obvious political reasons the Left cannot face this problem so has manufactured a noisy and pointless alternative instead.

sackcloth and ashes
sackcloth and ashes
12 years ago

‘[While] of course there are far worse instances of misogyny and abuse to worry about, the No More Page 3 campaign has garnered lots of attention and 107,000 signatories so far’.

‘Shhh … don’t talk about the Islamists! They’re our friends!’

Talking of hubris, Tim, I assume you saw this piece in the ‘Indie’ earlier this week.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/theyll-want-to-bring-back-hanging-next-what-rightwing-lunacy-is-there-inside-the-conservative-rebels-alternative-queens-speech-8672008.html

The comments, incidentally, have been heavily edited since the last time I saw them. In fact, most of them have disappeared.

I presume that this has nothing to do with the fact that most of them absolutely monstered Macintyre, and told him that if he thought that decriminalising the non-payment of the licence fee was the mark of a fascist lunatic, then he personally needed a check-up from the neck up.

nautical nick
nautical nick
12 years ago

Hmmm… 107,000 signatures, you say? Against the millions who support the Sun every day by buying it? Seems like the protesters have lost, doesn’t it?

Interested
Interested
12 years ago

@Rob – yes. Similarly, lots of fuss about hunting (killed I’d say 1000 per hour).

Interested
Interested
12 years ago

And nothing about halal slaughter >1000 per hour.

Interested
Interested
12 years ago

Ooops hunting killed fewer than 1000 foxes per year.

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