As we ‘dissidents’ have repeatedly stressed, the fact that we are on the verge of permanently losing our credibility
It is necessary to have something before you can lose it.
The SWP laughfest continues
January 18th, 2013 · 20 Comments
Tags: Woo Watch
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1 Arnald // Jan 18, 2013 at 12:54 pm
China Mieville is a great writer, though.
2 Serf // Jan 18, 2013 at 1:27 pm
The Left
1) In favour of women’s rights unless the leaders want to abuse their power
2) In favour of free speech unless the leaders want to abuse their power
3) In favour of peace unless the leaders want to abuse their power
4) Anti imperialist unless the empire is a communist one
5) In favour of gay rights unless courting an alliance for Palestine
6) In favour of living wages except for those in re-education camps
3 Surreptitious Evil // Jan 18, 2013 at 3:08 pm
This “contribution” to the “debate” is really quite amusing. Shades of Monty Python, me thinks.
4 DrMakkajaz // Jan 18, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Never knew he was a pinko!
5 bilbaoboy // Jan 18, 2013 at 5:13 pm
They have changed since I was at University. And unfortunately for me that was some time ago.
6 bilbaoboy // Jan 18, 2013 at 5:13 pm
‘haven’t’ obviously
7 Jonathan // Jan 18, 2013 at 7:00 pm
@Surreptitious Evil
Is that a real site or a parody? They really are deluded fuckers aren’t they.
8 SadButMadLad // Jan 18, 2013 at 8:32 pm
@Surreptitious Evil
I could hardly understand that site. So many high faultin’ words that attempt to sound like complex ideas when in reality there is no idea behind any of it. Brainless.
9 Surreptitious Evil // Jan 18, 2013 at 8:35 pm
I have no idea at all. Even at Uni all the trots stayed away from me because I was an imperialist warmongering babykiller …
However, judging by the comments on SocialistUnity and Lenin’s Tomb (which are clearly genuine trot sites – for some distortion of the word ‘genuine’), Poe’s Law, Corollary and Paradox all clearly apply to trots as well as to fundies.
10 Surreptitious Evil // Jan 18, 2013 at 8:40 pm
That’s mild. Read the comments under the article Tim posted earlier.
I’m certain this is a (set of?) shibboleth to allow you to identify between trots, marxists, pinkos, SWPers at 50 paces so you don’t sully your ideological purity by being exposed to anything that looks even vaguely like a new idea.
11 Philip Scott Thomas // Jan 18, 2013 at 8:46 pm
China Mieville is a great writer, though.
Oh, that’s so hilarious that it must be meant ironically. Anyone who can wibble on at length with such a conspicuous lack of concrete nouns is no great writer. Jeez Louise, it’s only marginally better than those descriptions you see in an art exhibit.
12 Andy // Jan 18, 2013 at 10:27 pm
That website has a quote from Owen Jones on it’s banner.
Hahahahahaha
13 Stuck-Record // Jan 19, 2013 at 9:38 am
China (The BBC love me) Mieville’s article is calling for a revolution inside a revolutionary party.
Hilarious.
What’s the position of those other BBC SWP favourites: Michael Rosen and Mark Steele?
14 Stuck-Record // Jan 19, 2013 at 9:51 am
The best bit is where he complains that the SWP (the party he chose to join) is top-down, authoritarian and undemocratic.
Err… yes. That’s what the SWP (and their hero, Lenin) would call a feature not a bug.
He’s a bright boy, China.
15 Rob // Jan 19, 2013 at 11:44 am
6) In favour of living wages except for those in re-education camps or working for left-wing newspapers.
16 Arnald // Jan 19, 2013 at 3:41 pm
So, Thomas, you’ve read his books then?
The infighting is no surprise. Jesus, just look at the right-wing vitriol towards its own.
Look at Worstall wanting to hang people that are only a shade away from his deluded reality.
17 Ross // Jan 19, 2013 at 10:40 pm
“What’s the position of those other BBC SWP favourites: Michael Rosen and Mark Steele?”
I think Mark Steele jumped from that sinking ship a couple of years ago.
18 Van_Patten // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:41 am
I have to agree with Arnald to a degree here – China Mieville is a horror Fiction writer of some standing – like many in literary circles his politics are on the extreme Left but that shouldn’t necessarily detract from the quality of his books.
I think the article Tim is linking to verges on self-parody, however, and as he points out, the SWP, craven apologists for mass murder and the deaths of 150 million people, have no credibility to destroy.
19 Philip Scott Thomas // Jan 20, 2013 at 3:44 pm
Books be damned. The article Tim linked to is piss-poor writing.
20 Arnald // Jan 20, 2013 at 11:26 pm
PSThomas
I hadn’t been paying attention to the SWP kerfuffle Worstall deemed to be “laughable”, that’s because everyone knows that ‘catch all militancy’ can only create hostile divisions.
It’s not news really, when you consider the divisions between those that make actual decisions.
I have a feeling , in that article, that Mieville was caging issues because of personal ties within his chosen cause. He is an erudite and convicted speaker, and an individual.
That article was entirely correct for what is was intended. Ideas: Creativity. Individuality: Liberty.
Yeah, I thought it was a bit shit, but then he is the best pusher of a section of post Moorcock imagineering.
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