Sadly they’re talking past the real point.
And despite the obsession of some scientists to find a “cause” for our “condition”, there remains no real evidence that sexual preference is pre-determined by genetics.
Many gay people want to believe we were “born that way” to provoke sympathy and understanding.
I believe that I was born gay.
Entirely plausible, probable even.
The problem here is the usual lefty ignorance of science.
Given that homosexuality is unlikely to be something selected for in evolution (you can, and people do, make rather tortured arguments insisting that there are benefits to the survival of siblings) a genetic basis seems really rather unlikely.
Not impossible, agreed, but prima facie at least unlikely.
However, that doesn’t mean that sexuality is not, or cannot be, determined by the time of birth. For there’s that whole 9 months of gestation in which things can happen. Genes aren’t the only thing you know!
Quite how much weight to put on this idea I’m not sure. But it’s one that makes sense to me at least. That homosexuality is akin to autism…..there, now that will get me into trouble. No, I don’t mean something generally thought of as undesirable. Rather, that it’s something that happens as a result of the waves of hormones that sweep through the foetus at certain developmental stages.
It’s not (necessarily) genetically determined but environmentally. But it’s the environment of foetal development and is thus set by the time of birth.
Of course: whether it’s all about genes, development or simple and pure personal choice makes no damn difference to civil liberties. Consenting adults are consenting adults and there’s an end to it.