Comments on: That’s the end of organic farming then

By: Canada Guy

Canada Guy — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:46:19 +0000

Organic farming methods offer several benefits for the environment and human health as a whole, but unfortunately, there are many misconceptions and falsehoods being spread regarding organic food and farming methods, both by proponents and detractors. Here are the facts about what organic methods can do for us and what they can't. http://www.selfdestructivebastards.com/2009/11/organic-myths-and-realities.html

By: HunkyMale

HunkyMale — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:16:28 +0000

Not getting the exact figures, but the greenies/Veggies/Lentalists have often spouted crap about how many Kg’s of food a beef cow needs in order to produce a single Kg of Meat (I think it was 95Kg to 1Kg?), but they always ‘forget’ to mention the 90+Kg of ‘fertiliser’ that is produced as a by product. Its quite nice that I am not the only one to notice this!

By: Harry Haddock

Harry Haddock — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:21:05 +0000

It also means that as oil dries up, and thus fertilizer cannot be produced cheaply, that we all starve to death. It also means that most of the land presently used for animals will be useless (raising animals on land is less profitable than growing protien, thus it is only done where you cannot grow soya, wheat, etc, such as moore land), so thats a bit less food.

That’s assuming we don’t all die of boredom from eating shite food.

By: Peter Risdon

Peter Risdon — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:52:15 +0000

BTW, I wrote the UK’s reference carbon profiling tool for farm and estate use, launched by Hilary Benn last year. The irony here is that the stewardship schemes this software has just been expanded to include do recognise the sequestration benefits of pasture topsoil.

By: Peter Risdon

Peter Risdon — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:47:40 +0000

Some do seem to want us to get rid of wild animals too.

I might blog this in more detail, but livestock form part of a closed loop. Grass etc sequestrates carbon, they eat grass, release CO2 and methane, methane quickly breaks down in atmosphere into CO2 and other products, grass sequestrates carbon.

Methane is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2, so there’s an effect bubble while methane is breaking down. But it’s not overall a net release of CO2 at all.

However, converting pasture to crop does release large quantities of CO2 from topsoil, where it has been sequestrated slowly over centuries. Equally, converting crop land to pasture begins this slow sequestration process.

In brief, going vegetarian makes almost no difference. It’s a non-issue. Veggies are bandwagon jumping.

By: AntiCitizenOne

AntiCitizenOne — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:12:30 +0000

That’s obviously “different” natural and harmless methane.

By: Ed

Ed — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:34:28 +0000

If the methane farts and burps of our cows, pigs and sheep are so bad for the environment, shouldn’t the eco-idiots also want to get rid of all the wildebeest, antelope, rhinos, elephants, zebras etc?

By: JuliaM

JuliaM — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:53:21 +0000

It seems like only yesterday they were urging us to switch from pet cats and dogs to chickens.

Now, we can’t even eat those? Morons…

By: So Much For Subtlety

So Much For Subtlety — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:42:36 +0000

Well we can put women to the plough, peasants can carry us gentry around in sedan chairs, we can put human excrement straight onto the fields and have a diet of potatoes and turnips all winter.

Sounds like paradise.

By: Brian, follower of Deornoth

Brian, follower of Deornoth — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:41:06 +0000

Is it curtains for all those sacred cows in India, then?

Thought not.

By: Ed Snack

Ed Snack — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:07:25 +0000

Stern is, quite simply, a fuckwit. No other word quite encompasses the idiocy that the man displays. It’s almost enough to get me to support the death penalty for such buffoons, as an object lesson to all and sundry.

By: JuliaM

JuliaM — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:06:50 +0000

‘Socially unacceptable’ where…? Islington?

Sorry, Stern, that isn’t the whole world. Never will be.

By: Lovegoats

Lovegoats — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:30:16 +0000

Worse than that – nothing pulling the plough.