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	<description>It is all obvious or trivial except...</description>
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		<title>By: Monty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolute poverty is easy to define, and that&#039;s why we should ditch this relative poverty concept, which is much too slippery.

The ability to buy sufficient, wholesome food, clean water, accomodation which is structurally sound and safe, clothing, public transport to work, school etc, and sufficient fuel for heating, and hot water to keep home and people clean. Maybe some extra to cover telephone, insurance of home and contents, and refunds of costs incurred for dentistry and spectacles, mobility aids, and children&#039;s school uniforms and sports equipment.

TVs, broadband, computers, playstations, package holidays, gender re-assignment surgery, are not basic essentials.

As I write this, cases of real griding poverty are being shown on TV.  Folk living in a cardboard and plastic shanty town in Paraguay.

And as for child poverty, the touchstone of one Gordon Broon, the worst poverty afflicting our children, is the fact that single mothers are bringing them into the world only to use them as a meal ticket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolute poverty is easy to define, and that&#8217;s why we should ditch this relative poverty concept, which is much too slippery.</p>
<p>The ability to buy sufficient, wholesome food, clean water, accomodation which is structurally sound and safe, clothing, public transport to work, school etc, and sufficient fuel for heating, and hot water to keep home and people clean. Maybe some extra to cover telephone, insurance of home and contents, and refunds of costs incurred for dentistry and spectacles, mobility aids, and children&#8217;s school uniforms and sports equipment.</p>
<p>TVs, broadband, computers, playstations, package holidays, gender re-assignment surgery, are not basic essentials.</p>
<p>As I write this, cases of real griding poverty are being shown on TV.  Folk living in a cardboard and plastic shanty town in Paraguay.</p>
<p>And as for child poverty, the touchstone of one Gordon Broon, the worst poverty afflicting our children, is the fact that single mothers are bringing them into the world only to use them as a meal ticket.</p>
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		<title>By: lukas</title>
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		<dc:creator>lukas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 20:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;if lots of bankers’ salaries disappeared during, say, an economic crisis, the median income falls and in doing so removes thousands of people from poverty overnight.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, prices are supposed to fall during a crisis too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>if lots of bankers’ salaries disappeared during, say, an economic crisis, the median income falls and in doing so removes thousands of people from poverty overnight.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, prices are supposed to fall during a crisis too.</p>
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		<title>By: lukas</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2009/05/08/yes-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-29979</link>
		<dc:creator>lukas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 20:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How am I supposed to believe anything the guy writes when he doesn&#039;t even know, or care, about the difference between weekly and monthly income?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How am I supposed to believe anything the guy writes when he doesn&#8217;t even know, or care, about the difference between weekly and monthly income?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2009/05/08/yes-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-29971</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m think it might be you who is being strange, irksome, in demanding fixed uses of words. 

You argue there are no poor people in any developed or middle-income country. But this is clearly not how the vast majority of people use the word, saying things like &#039;this is a poor area of the city&#039;. Opinion poll data also shows that peoples view of poverty changes with income, i.e. a relative measure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m think it might be you who is being strange, irksome, in demanding fixed uses of words. </p>
<p>You argue there are no poor people in any developed or middle-income country. But this is clearly not how the vast majority of people use the word, saying things like &#8216;this is a poor area of the city&#8217;. Opinion poll data also shows that peoples view of poverty changes with income, i.e. a relative measure.</p>
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		<title>By: Letters From A Tory</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2009/05/08/yes-yes/comment-page-1/#comment-29959</link>
		<dc:creator>Letters From A Tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 08:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poverty is a messy one, because relative poverty measures are almost completely useless from a policy perspective - 60% of median income being the preferred poverty cut-off point.  For example, if lots of bankers&#039; salaries disappeared during, say, an economic crisis, the median income falls and in doing so removes thousands of people from poverty overnight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poverty is a messy one, because relative poverty measures are almost completely useless from a policy perspective &#8211; 60% of median income being the preferred poverty cut-off point.  For example, if lots of bankers&#8217; salaries disappeared during, say, an economic crisis, the median income falls and in doing so removes thousands of people from poverty overnight.</p>
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