Comments on: Oh my… http://timworstall.com/2009/04/15/oh-my-4/ It is all obvious or trivial except... Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:45:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Grum http://timworstall.com/2009/04/15/oh-my-4/comment-page-1/#comment-29494 Grum Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:54:42 +0000 http://timworstall.com/?p=7177#comment-29494 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_school#Nationwide_implementation details the time lines. It didn't happen all at once. Concerning the professional classes who don't fall into the "rich" category, Labour scrapped the Direct Grant system circa 1976/7, the Tories reintroduced an "Assisted Places" system, and then New Labour scrapped that. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_Places_Scheme Many professionals such as my parents could afford Direct Grant fees, but certainly not those of a fully independent school (which my old school has now become). Approximately a third of pupils at that school were there courtesy of free places awarded by the two main local authorities, so it wasn't reserved for fee payers alone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_school#Nationwide_implementation details the time lines. It didn’t happen all at once.

Concerning the professional classes who don’t fall into the “rich” category, Labour scrapped the Direct Grant system circa 1976/7, the Tories reintroduced an “Assisted Places” system, and then New Labour scrapped that. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_Places_Scheme

Many professionals such as my parents could afford Direct Grant fees, but certainly not those of a fully independent school (which my old school has now become). Approximately a third of pupils at that school were there courtesy of free places awarded by the two main local authorities, so it wasn’t reserved for fee payers alone.

]]> By: Pat http://timworstall.com/2009/04/15/oh-my-4/comment-page-1/#comment-29472 Pat Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:26:04 +0000 http://timworstall.com/?p=7177#comment-29472 I'm tempted to ask- so I will-given the above figures, was the real objective of comprehensive education to restrict entry into the professions to the "middle" (which means richer) classes? I’m tempted to ask- so I will-given the above figures, was the real objective of comprehensive education to restrict entry into the professions to the “middle” (which means richer) classes?

]]> By: Monty http://timworstall.com/2009/04/15/oh-my-4/comment-page-1/#comment-29466 Monty Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:48:56 +0000 http://timworstall.com/?p=7177#comment-29466 That gap will increase. It can't be helped, because the so called comprehensives have spent thirty years depriving disadvantaged bright children of the education they would have received in the Grammar schools. That gap will increase. It can’t be helped, because the so called comprehensives have spent thirty years depriving disadvantaged bright children of the education they would have received in the Grammar schools.

]]> By: MARK T http://timworstall.com/2009/04/15/oh-my-4/comment-page-1/#comment-29463 MARK T Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:58:02 +0000 http://timworstall.com/?p=7177#comment-29463 implication that media is important is amusing..of course it remains one of the bigger bastions of nepotism. As to finance, I suspect you will find most of the most important people weren't actually even educated in this country implication that media is important is amusing..of course it remains one of the bigger bastions of nepotism. As to finance, I suspect you will find most of the most important people weren’t actually even educated in this country

]]> By: Serf http://timworstall.com/2009/04/15/oh-my-4/comment-page-1/#comment-29438 Serf Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:25:49 +0000 http://timworstall.com/?p=7177#comment-29438 So the solution is obviously to close all the private schools. Sorry only joking So the solution is obviously to close all the private schools.

Sorry only joking

]]> By: Matthew http://timworstall.com/2009/04/15/oh-my-4/comment-page-1/#comment-29436 Matthew Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:11:40 +0000 http://timworstall.com/?p=7177#comment-29436 What proportion of judges and senior civil servants went to school in the fully comprehensive era? Tim adds: Civil servants retire at 60. So even the most senior will have been at school in the 60s, more in the 70s. Just as the comprehensive system was indeed being rolled out (late 50s onwards, no?) What proportion of judges and senior civil servants went to school in the fully comprehensive era?

Tim adds: Civil servants retire at 60. So even the most senior will have been at school in the 60s, more in the 70s. Just as the comprehensive system was indeed being rolled out (late 50s onwards, no?)

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