Comments on: The evil that Tim Worstall does

By: eurealist.co.uk » Blog Archive » Murphy’s Law #9: Tim Worstall is the Devil

Fri, 09 Jan 2009 06:48:52 +0000

[...] Tim Worstall is going to eat your babies, and your kittens. Or at least that’s pretty much what the disgusting, socialist moron, Richard Murphy, seems to think. Tim is a clever chap, I will not dispute it. There is, however, something very unpleasant about his methods. He tries to engage as a reasonable person on this blog, and then goes back to his own blog, hurls abuse and waits for his sycophants to come back with ad hominem, crude and sometimes blatantly inappropriate comments, all of which, I am sure, fuel his ego, but more sinisterly, fit into a pattern of political behaviour most commonly associated with the far right. The BNP work in this way, for example. I’m not suggesting Tim has anything to do with them, or their racist opinion, but Nick Griffin also seeks to appear reasonable in public debate, but relies upon working his audience of thugs behind-the-scenes and in his own domain to secure his support. [...]

By: Obnoxio The Clown

Obnoxio The Clown — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:29:50 +0000

“This money, a kind of land tax”

Bwaahahahahahahahaha! That’s a land tax in much the same way that I’m a gibbon.

By: Longrider » Freedom of Speech

Longrider » Freedom of Speech — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:12:07 +0000

[...] been following the recent spat between Tim Worstall, Devil’s Kitchen and Richard Murphy with detached amusement – in part because [...]

By: The Godwin’s to end all Godwin’s

The Godwin’s to end all Godwin’s — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:42:58 +0000

[...] really, the Devil ‘effin’ and blindin’. Obnoxio and his potty mouth, this is indeed the same as the Nazis and their suppression of public [...]

By: DBC Reed

DBC Reed — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:56:18 +0000

@DavidNcl. If he were to keep his temper for one moment he might consider that a lot of younger households are shelling out hundreds of pounds in mortgage repayments for,as well as their bricks and mortar, the land underneath.This money, a kind of land tax, goes straight to the private sector.All that land taxers ask for, not demand,is that at least some of this private levy go instead to local or national authorities to replace taxes on income or business transactions. This where I came in to this alleged debate in order to call for some unity from the numerous supporters of LVT right across the political spectrum for a policy which makes a lot of others look trivial.

By: Tom P

Tom P — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:37:53 +0000

So Roger Scruton says “if you can’t discuss with your opponents, how can you correct your views?”

wonder what he would make of this then?

“Just as negotiation with terrorists should be abjured so should debate leftists because at a minimum it a) legitimizes their position and b) helps them get better at propaganda c) is a waste of time.”

By: Mr Potarto

Mr Potarto — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:42:04 +0000

“…was a breathtakingly arrogant thing to say when Scruton said it, was false even at the time, and is immediately disproved by the comments section of any right-libertarian blog (where the prevailing *theme of debate* is that lefties are evil…)”

I’m not sure. I think the generalised view of the right is that they have evil motives, whereas the the generalised view of the left is their foolish motives lead to evil outcomes.

By: DavidNcl

DavidNcl — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:31:06 +0000

Sucking 43% of the GDP is more than a “bit of tax”. Frankly free speech issues and trouble with due process is completely fucking trivial compared to the huge sucking parasitic mass attached to the body politic.

By: Kay Tie

Kay Tie — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:27:21 +0000

“Who is Richard Murphy and why should I give a toss what he thinks?”

Because although he’s an ignorant leftie twat, he’s in with the brothers, influential with the Guardianistas, and part of the ‘intellect’ of Zanu Labour. Thus he has a great opportunity to stir up shit.

Nipping him in the bud is an important part of that eternal vigilance price that a free people must pay.

By: Ron Brick

Ron Brick — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:09:46 +0000

Who is Richard Murphy and why should I give a toss what he thinks?

By: Obnoxio The Clown

Obnoxio The Clown — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:04:25 +0000

A “bit” of tax? Jesus.

By: john b

john b — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:30:59 +0000

…was a breathtakingly arrogant thing to say when Scruton said it, was false even at the time, and is immediately disproved by the comments section of any right-libertarian blog (where the prevailing *theme of debate* is that lefties are evil…)

Needhat: Richard Murphy is a silly man who doesn’t matter very much. He’s not the threat: the consensus among both political parties against individual freedoms and rights is the threat. If libertarians want to gain any kind of support, then building a coalition of everyone who opposes the erosion of individual freedoms and rights is a Good Idea. Demonising the people who hate detention-without-trial and restrictions on freedom of speech, but don’t really mind paying a bit of tax, isn’t a clever way of doing this. Clear?

By: Needhat

Needhat — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:43:46 +0000

“DBCR wins 10,000 awards, to which nobody will play the blindest bit of attention, because all the ‘right-libertarians’ are too busy hating dim well-meaning socialists to actually bother with anything important, whilst everyone who’s actually left-wing and hates NuLab for being a bunch of lying authoritarian dullards is deterred from supporting the ‘right-libertarians’ by the fact that they’re insufferable, arrogant wankers.

But yeah, whatever, it’s “the left” who’re unthinking. Not the people who could attract the (small D) decent ex-Labour supporters.

As usual, listening to TW and DK makes me think that the libertoonians aren’t inherently appalling ridiculous madmen; reading the comments section reminds me that they are.”

I wonder if some kind soul would translate this into english for me.

Thanks ever so

Needhat

PS – What is a libertoonian?

By: Dr Nick Ashley

Dr Nick Ashley — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:00:15 +0000

The Graun isn’t mainstream it’s left wing! The whole point of blogging is to get away from MSM and tell things like they are in real life and to pick up the topics that MSM either glosses over, doesn’t report or which it doesn’t challenge. This little rant is utter bollox IMO.

By: Tim Newman

Tim Newman — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:50:20 +0000

I think it was Roger Scruton that said:

“One of the great distinctions between the left and the right in the intellectual world is that left-wing people find it very hard to get on with right-wing people, because they believe that they are evil. Whereas I have no problem getting on with left-wing people, because I simply believe that they are mistaken. After a while, if I can persuade them that I’m not evil, I find it a very useful thing. I know that my views on many things are open to correction. But if you can’t discuss with your opponents, how can you correct your views?”

By: So Much For Subtlety

So Much For Subtlety — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:18:59 +0000

john b – “As usual, listening to TW and DK makes me think that the libertoonians aren’t inherently appalling ridiculous madmen; reading the comments section reminds me that they are.”

We love you too John. Every village needs its idiot.

By: john b

john b — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:32:23 +0000

DBCR wins 10,000 awards, to which nobody will play the blindest bit of attention, because all the ‘right-libertarians’ are too busy hating dim well-meaning socialists to actually bother with anything important, whilst everyone who’s actually left-wing and hates NuLab for being a bunch of lying authoritarian dullards is deterred from supporting the ‘right-libertarians’ by the fact that they’re insufferable, arrogant wankers.

But yeah, whatever, it’s “the left” who’re unthinking. Not the people who could attract the (small D) decent ex-Labour supporters.

As usual, listening to TW and DK makes me think that the libertoonians aren’t inherently appalling ridiculous madmen; reading the comments section reminds me that they are.

By: The weirdest thing I’ve read all week « Gary Andrews

The weirdest thing I’ve read all week « Gary Andrews — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:10:43 +0000

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By: DBC Reed

DBC Reed — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:07:55 +0000

It appears from Mark Wadsworth’s exchange with Richard Murphy (above) that RM is in favour of LVT.As is Tim Worstall.As is Mark Wadsworth.As am I. And a lot of other people into the bargain.A bit of mutual support would n’t come amiss.All of this bickering is really counter-productive: we have a vast and pig-ignorant mass of bribed-silly homeowner voters to deal with.

By: The Great Simpleton

The Great Simpleton — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:16:45 +0000

Invoking the BNP should qualify for Godwin’s law. The unthinking left always reduce the debate to either Nazi and or BNP as they realise the debate is lost.