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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/11/23/civil-servant-stupidity/comment-page-1/#comment-24106</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“After how many months should an adult person receiving unemployment benefit join the New Deal programme?”

&lt;b&gt;Haven&#039;t got a clue, but one assumes that the people down the DHSS would be able to tell you if it became relevant&lt;/b&gt;

“What percentage of children live with both birth parents?”

&lt;b&gt;Probably about half.&lt;/b&gt;

“There is concern in Britain over the age at which some young people start drinking. True or false?”

&lt;b&gt;There exists concern, yes. Personally, I&#039;m quite concerned that they don&#039;t start young enough.&lt;/b&gt;

“A new born baby should be registered with The Registrar of Births, Marriages and Deaths within how many weeks (in England and Wales)?”

&lt;b&gt;Six, I think&lt;/b&gt;

“What percentage of the population live in Wales?”

&lt;b&gt;5%?&lt;/b&gt;

“Which is the largest police force?”

&lt;b&gt;Probably the Met.&lt;/b&gt;

“What Christmas dish is made from suet, dried fruit and spices?”

&lt;b&gt;Christmas Pudding. Mince Pies.&lt;/b&gt;

“How much maternity leave can women take?”

&lt;b&gt;As much as they like, but if they take more than a certain amount, they might get sacked. I think the dastardly EU are trying to require them to take at least 6 weeks post-partum.&lt;/b&gt;

“When did the European Union originate?”

&lt;b&gt;Maastricht? 1937 in Austria? 1918 in Versailles?&lt;/b&gt;


“Compulsory testing gives parents a good indication of their children’s progress. True or false?”

&lt;b&gt;Obviously false&lt;/b&gt;

“In the Old times The House of Lords was more powerful than The House of Commons. True or false?”

&lt;b&gt;True&lt;/b&gt;

“What percentage of the UK population is Jewish?”

&lt;b&gt;Not much, unless you live in Golders Green&lt;/b&gt;

“What is the earliest legal age for a children to do paid work?”

&lt;b&gt;Zero. Children can work as actors from birth, under somewhat strict conditions for the younger ones.&lt;/b&gt;

“What is the highest denomination bank note in the UK?”

&lt;b&gt;£50 in general circulation.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“After how many months should an adult person receiving unemployment benefit join the New Deal programme?”</p>
<p><b>Haven&#8217;t got a clue, but one assumes that the people down the DHSS would be able to tell you if it became relevant</b></p>
<p>“What percentage of children live with both birth parents?”</p>
<p><b>Probably about half.</b></p>
<p>“There is concern in Britain over the age at which some young people start drinking. True or false?”</p>
<p><b>There exists concern, yes. Personally, I&#8217;m quite concerned that they don&#8217;t start young enough.</b></p>
<p>“A new born baby should be registered with The Registrar of Births, Marriages and Deaths within how many weeks (in England and Wales)?”</p>
<p><b>Six, I think</b></p>
<p>“What percentage of the population live in Wales?”</p>
<p><b>5%?</b></p>
<p>“Which is the largest police force?”</p>
<p><b>Probably the Met.</b></p>
<p>“What Christmas dish is made from suet, dried fruit and spices?”</p>
<p><b>Christmas Pudding. Mince Pies.</b></p>
<p>“How much maternity leave can women take?”</p>
<p><b>As much as they like, but if they take more than a certain amount, they might get sacked. I think the dastardly EU are trying to require them to take at least 6 weeks post-partum.</b></p>
<p>“When did the European Union originate?”</p>
<p><b>Maastricht? 1937 in Austria? 1918 in Versailles?</b></p>
<p>“Compulsory testing gives parents a good indication of their children’s progress. True or false?”</p>
<p><b>Obviously false</b></p>
<p>“In the Old times The House of Lords was more powerful than The House of Commons. True or false?”</p>
<p><b>True</b></p>
<p>“What percentage of the UK population is Jewish?”</p>
<p><b>Not much, unless you live in Golders Green</b></p>
<p>“What is the earliest legal age for a children to do paid work?”</p>
<p><b>Zero. Children can work as actors from birth, under somewhat strict conditions for the younger ones.</b></p>
<p>“What is the highest denomination bank note in the UK?”</p>
<p><b>£50 in general circulation.</b></p>
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		<title>By: john b</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/11/23/civil-servant-stupidity/comment-page-1/#comment-24070</link>
		<dc:creator>john b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IIRC the test gives multi-choice answers, which makes it easier than KT&#039;s summary - and many of them are commonsense deduction ones. From memory:

6 months
50%
True
4 weeks
4%
Met
Christmas pudding
18 months of not being fired, much less of being paid
1947
True (is obviously the answer they&#039;re looking for, although asking this as a T/F is pretty damn outrageous)
True
0.5%
13
£50</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIRC the test gives multi-choice answers, which makes it easier than KT&#8217;s summary &#8211; and many of them are commonsense deduction ones. From memory:</p>
<p>6 months<br />
50%<br />
True<br />
4 weeks<br />
4%<br />
Met<br />
Christmas pudding<br />
18 months of not being fired, much less of being paid<br />
1947<br />
True (is obviously the answer they&#8217;re looking for, although asking this as a T/F is pretty damn outrageous)<br />
True<br />
0.5%<br />
13<br />
£50</p>
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		<title>By: JuliaM</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/11/23/civil-servant-stupidity/comment-page-1/#comment-24039</link>
		<dc:creator>JuliaM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 17:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;So what are the bureaucrats up to?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Keeping themselves in jobs. A serial failure means repeat &#039;business&#039;, thus keeping them in jobs. And state pensions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;So what are the bureaucrats up to?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Keeping themselves in jobs. A serial failure means repeat &#8216;business&#8217;, thus keeping them in jobs. And state pensions.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Spence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 13:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All right, all right, I fail. There&#039;s nothing left for me now but to go to the British Embassy tomorrow morning (during the two hour window in which the idle tossers actually open to the public) to hand in my passport, a broken man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All right, all right, I fail. There&#8217;s nothing left for me now but to go to the British Embassy tomorrow morning (during the two hour window in which the idle tossers actually open to the public) to hand in my passport, a broken man.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay Tie</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/11/23/civil-servant-stupidity/comment-page-1/#comment-24032</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay Tie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If one wants to become a citizen of a country, exactly what’s wrong with being required to learn about the place and/or speak the language reasonably well?&quot;

Nothing. But anyone who thinks a Government committee can write a suitable set of questions is themselves insufficiently aware of their own culture. In other words, if you think the Government is competent, you&#039;re not sufficiently British to live here. The questions reveal a horrifying outlook on the part of the social engineers who set the questions.

Don&#039;t believe me? Answer the following (from memory, please, no Googling, because you&#039;re supposed to be British and already know the answers, yes?).

&quot;After how many months should an adult person receiving unemployment benefit join the New Deal programme?&quot;

&quot;What percentage of children live with both birth parents?&quot;

&quot;There is concern in Britain over the age at which some young people start drinking. True or false?&quot;

&quot;A new born baby should be registered with The Registrar of Births, Marriages and Deaths within how many weeks (in England and Wales)?&quot;

&quot;What percentage of the population live in Wales?&quot;

&quot;Which is the largest police force?&quot;

&quot;What Christmas dish is made from suet, dried fruit and spices?&quot;

&quot;How much maternity leave can women take?&quot;

&quot;When did the European Union originate?&quot;

&quot;Compulsory testing gives parents a good indication of their children&#039;s progress. True or false?&quot;

&quot;In the Old times The House of Lords was more powerful than The House of Commons. True or false?&quot;

&quot;What percentage of the UK population is Jewish?&quot;

&quot;What is the earliest legal age for a children to do paid work?&quot;

&quot;What is the highest denomination bank note in the UK?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If one wants to become a citizen of a country, exactly what’s wrong with being required to learn about the place and/or speak the language reasonably well?&#8221;</p>
<p>Nothing. But anyone who thinks a Government committee can write a suitable set of questions is themselves insufficiently aware of their own culture. In other words, if you think the Government is competent, you&#8217;re not sufficiently British to live here. The questions reveal a horrifying outlook on the part of the social engineers who set the questions.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t believe me? Answer the following (from memory, please, no Googling, because you&#8217;re supposed to be British and already know the answers, yes?).</p>
<p>&#8220;After how many months should an adult person receiving unemployment benefit join the New Deal programme?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;What percentage of children live with both birth parents?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;There is concern in Britain over the age at which some young people start drinking. True or false?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;A new born baby should be registered with The Registrar of Births, Marriages and Deaths within how many weeks (in England and Wales)?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;What percentage of the population live in Wales?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Which is the largest police force?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;What Christmas dish is made from suet, dried fruit and spices?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;How much maternity leave can women take?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;When did the European Union originate?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Compulsory testing gives parents a good indication of their children&#8217;s progress. True or false?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;In the Old times The House of Lords was more powerful than The House of Commons. True or false?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;What percentage of the UK population is Jewish?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;What is the earliest legal age for a children to do paid work?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;What is the highest denomination bank note in the UK?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Eva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If one wants to become a citizen of a country, exactly what&#039;s wrong with being required to learn about the place and/or speak the language reasonably well?  

Most countries have in place some hoops for would-be citizens to jump through. Making people read a book and understand what&#039;s in it (as opposed memorising the answers to a set of questions) doesn&#039;t seem unreasonable. 

The Dutch provide no translations for their passport applications - if you don&#039;t understand enough of the language to fill it out and converse with the passport official, you don&#039;t get the passport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one wants to become a citizen of a country, exactly what&#8217;s wrong with being required to learn about the place and/or speak the language reasonably well?  </p>
<p>Most countries have in place some hoops for would-be citizens to jump through. Making people read a book and understand what&#8217;s in it (as opposed memorising the answers to a set of questions) doesn&#8217;t seem unreasonable. </p>
<p>The Dutch provide no translations for their passport applications &#8211; if you don&#8217;t understand enough of the language to fill it out and converse with the passport official, you don&#8217;t get the passport.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay Tie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay Tie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I crammed for the Canadian one for a laugh. I bet that not more than one in ten Canadians could pass it. Stupid test is as ridiculous as ours: set by some academic obsessed with the constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I crammed for the Canadian one for a laugh. I bet that not more than one in ten Canadians could pass it. Stupid test is as ridiculous as ours: set by some academic obsessed with the constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: Kit</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/11/23/civil-servant-stupidity/comment-page-1/#comment-24024</link>
		<dc:creator>Kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not forget the whole idea of a citizenship test is ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not forget the whole idea of a citizenship test is ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: GeoffH</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/11/23/civil-servant-stupidity/comment-page-1/#comment-24023</link>
		<dc:creator>GeoffH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The purpose of these tests is not to discover who knows enough to be granted citizenship but to determine who knows insufficient and so can be denied citizenship.

A high pass rate means failure, a low pas rate, success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose of these tests is not to discover who knows enough to be granted citizenship but to determine who knows insufficient and so can be denied citizenship.</p>
<p>A high pass rate means failure, a low pas rate, success.</p>
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