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	<title>Comments on: Felix Salmon Asks</title>
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	<description>It is all obvious or trivial except...</description>
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		<title>By: BGC</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/05/01/felix-salmon-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-11829</link>
		<dc:creator>BGC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 05:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... things get worse before they get better.&quot;

Yes but I would say its stronger than this - things *have-to* get worse before they get better. Which is why essential reforms are almost always delayed (eg. measures to curb-hyper inflation, or a house-price bubble - everyone knows what to do, and that it needs doing, but nobody wants to be the one to do it - because of being blamed for  immediate harm).  

And, with respect to J-shaped curves  you might add: the longer a reform is delayed, the deeper the down-tick (the worse the worse-ness will be).

So you get each government delaying inevitable reforms (eg. to pensions) because they don&#039;t want to be blamed for the immediate harm -  and the longer the inevitable reform is delayed they worse the inevitable harm becomes.  Eventually there is a big crisis, which was - in principle - avoidable. 

Sadly, politicians are quite correct to worry that they will be blamed for immediate harm but  not-credited for longer term benefits. 

Margaret Thatcher&#039;s economic reforms in the UK were hugely beneficial to the country in the long-term, reversing many decades of relentless economic decline and elevating the UK (for a while) to being the fourth most productive economy in the world. 

But &#039;Thatcherism&#039; is remembered by most UK people for the (inevitable) short-term harm these reforms inflicted initially. The economic benefits were either not noticed (since they built up slowly over several years) ; or else they were (wrongly) credited to other factors.  

I can&#039;t see things improving until some government drills it into the electorate that any beneficial change - beneficial overall and in the long term - nevertheless inevitably causes some harm to some people for some time. That&#039;s life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; things get worse before they get better.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes but I would say its stronger than this &#8211; things *have-to* get worse before they get better. Which is why essential reforms are almost always delayed (eg. measures to curb-hyper inflation, or a house-price bubble &#8211; everyone knows what to do, and that it needs doing, but nobody wants to be the one to do it &#8211; because of being blamed for  immediate harm).  </p>
<p>And, with respect to J-shaped curves  you might add: the longer a reform is delayed, the deeper the down-tick (the worse the worse-ness will be).</p>
<p>So you get each government delaying inevitable reforms (eg. to pensions) because they don&#8217;t want to be blamed for the immediate harm &#8211;  and the longer the inevitable reform is delayed they worse the inevitable harm becomes.  Eventually there is a big crisis, which was &#8211; in principle &#8211; avoidable. </p>
<p>Sadly, politicians are quite correct to worry that they will be blamed for immediate harm but  not-credited for longer term benefits. </p>
<p>Margaret Thatcher&#8217;s economic reforms in the UK were hugely beneficial to the country in the long-term, reversing many decades of relentless economic decline and elevating the UK (for a while) to being the fourth most productive economy in the world. </p>
<p>But &#8216;Thatcherism&#8217; is remembered by most UK people for the (inevitable) short-term harm these reforms inflicted initially. The economic benefits were either not noticed (since they built up slowly over several years) ; or else they were (wrongly) credited to other factors.  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t see things improving until some government drills it into the electorate that any beneficial change &#8211; beneficial overall and in the long term &#8211; nevertheless inevitably causes some harm to some people for some time. That&#8217;s life.</p>
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		<title>By: BGC</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/05/01/felix-salmon-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-11828</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 05:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... things get worse before they get better.&quot;

I would say its stronger than this - things have-to get worse before they get better. Which is why essential reforms are almost always delayed (eg. measures to curb-hyper inflation).  

And, with respect to J-shaped curves  you might add: the longer a reform is delayed, the deeper the down-tick (the worse the worse-ness will be).

So you get each government delaying inevitable reforms (eg. to pensions) because they don&#039;t want to be blamed for the immediate harm -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; things get worse before they get better.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would say its stronger than this &#8211; things have-to get worse before they get better. Which is why essential reforms are almost always delayed (eg. measures to curb-hyper inflation).  </p>
<p>And, with respect to J-shaped curves  you might add: the longer a reform is delayed, the deeper the down-tick (the worse the worse-ness will be).</p>
<p>So you get each government delaying inevitable reforms (eg. to pensions) because they don&#8217;t want to be blamed for the immediate harm -</p>
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		<title>By: otto</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/05/01/felix-salmon-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-11819</link>
		<dc:creator>otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 17:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scotsToryB,

It&#039;s not about China...well it is in part (of course), but USA is only the captain of one economic ship...its own (though it&#039;s a darn big ship).

Tim&#039;s argument is totally correct, and explains the query Felix had. Put another way, currency changes are far more liquid than changes in trade of physical goods and should be expected to react more quickly to short term patterns.</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s not about China&#8230;well it is in part (of course), but USA is only the captain of one economic ship&#8230;its own (though it&#8217;s a darn big ship).</p>
<p>Tim&#8217;s argument is totally correct, and explains the query Felix had. Put another way, currency changes are far more liquid than changes in trade of physical goods and should be expected to react more quickly to short term patterns.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/05/01/felix-salmon-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-11817</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 16:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trade surplus - that&#039;d be the first since 1976?! There was a quarter of surplus on the current account in the early 1990s though.

Tim adds: I agree, it&#039;s a rash prediction (which is why it&#039;s hedged) but I would be surprised. The euro over $1.50? The £ at 1.95 or so? In the medium to long term trade flows are pretty much determined by relative prices. I really am seeing this in the metals business: we&#039;re all buying from there, not selling to there now. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trade surplus &#8211; that&#8217;d be the first since 1976?! There was a quarter of surplus on the current account in the early 1990s though.</p>
<p>Tim adds: I agree, it&#8217;s a rash prediction (which is why it&#8217;s hedged) but I would be surprised. The euro over $1.50? The £ at 1.95 or so? In the medium to long term trade flows are pretty much determined by relative prices. I really am seeing this in the metals business: we&#8217;re all buying from there, not selling to there now.</p>
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		<title>By: ScotsToryB</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/05/01/felix-salmon-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-11815</link>
		<dc:creator>ScotsToryB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 16:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;As I fully expect the US one to, indeed, I’d be really rather surprised if in 5 years time the US wasn’t running a trade surplus.&#039;.

But.

China is locked in to USA debt, despite their threats to change currency. And, even as I am typing this I am beginning to understand where you are going. Are you saying that, and I understand this from one point of view, China is too late in threatening to change exchange currencies and Bush has outplayed them?

If so: neat.

STB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;As I fully expect the US one to, indeed, I’d be really rather surprised if in 5 years time the US wasn’t running a trade surplus.&#8217;.</p>
<p>But.</p>
<p>China is locked in to USA debt, despite their threats to change currency. And, even as I am typing this I am beginning to understand where you are going. Are you saying that, and I understand this from one point of view, China is too late in threatening to change exchange currencies and Bush has outplayed them?</p>
<p>If so: neat.</p>
<p>STB.</p>
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		<title>By: dearieme</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/05/01/felix-salmon-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-11812</link>
		<dc:creator>dearieme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 16:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;ll find that things will get worse before they get very much worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ll find that things will get worse before they get very much worse.</p>
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