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		<title>By: Chalcedon</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/04/11/oh-lord/comment-page-1/#comment-10754</link>
		<dc:creator>Chalcedon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 10:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely any tax like this being proposed is a distortion of the market and as such illegal? It is a state subsidy for loss making TV channels and as such illegal under EU competition law.

The market should define the situation. If you don&#039;t get the viewers, you don&#039;t get advertising (on commercial channels) and therefore you either go bust or you show programmes the public will watch and hence that advertisers will sponsor.

We already pay a TV tax for a lot of unwatchable BBC progs, but it is worth it for excellent radio, a good website and Dr Who and Torchwood.

The internet is the new medium. Why should ISPs be taxed to bail out old technology when things have moved on, tastes have changed and there are hundreds of TV channels to choose from?

This idiocy from government is unacceptable. I think we are all fed up to the back teeth with this tax everything attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely any tax like this being proposed is a distortion of the market and as such illegal? It is a state subsidy for loss making TV channels and as such illegal under EU competition law.</p>
<p>The market should define the situation. If you don&#8217;t get the viewers, you don&#8217;t get advertising (on commercial channels) and therefore you either go bust or you show programmes the public will watch and hence that advertisers will sponsor.</p>
<p>We already pay a TV tax for a lot of unwatchable BBC progs, but it is worth it for excellent radio, a good website and Dr Who and Torchwood.</p>
<p>The internet is the new medium. Why should ISPs be taxed to bail out old technology when things have moved on, tastes have changed and there are hundreds of TV channels to choose from?</p>
<p>This idiocy from government is unacceptable. I think we are all fed up to the back teeth with this tax everything attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: pagar</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/04/11/oh-lord/comment-page-1/#comment-10750</link>
		<dc:creator>pagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is public sector broadcasting?

In essence, it facilitates a stranger to exercise power and influence over our lives by making a programme that they decide we should watch or listen to rather than something else that we might choose to watch or listen to.

Of course I am upset that I am forced to contribute to paying this person but it is their arrogance in believing that they know what is good for me that I find truly insidious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is public sector broadcasting?</p>
<p>In essence, it facilitates a stranger to exercise power and influence over our lives by making a programme that they decide we should watch or listen to rather than something else that we might choose to watch or listen to.</p>
<p>Of course I am upset that I am forced to contribute to paying this person but it is their arrogance in believing that they know what is good for me that I find truly insidious.</p>
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		<title>By: TomJ</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/04/11/oh-lord/comment-page-1/#comment-10718</link>
		<dc:creator>TomJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Martin

Total spending on broadcasting in 2005

Television
£1,473m

Radio
£221m

(Source:http: //www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/10/12/nbbc212.xml)

&quot;The average person spends more time listening to the radio than watching TV, according to the latest figures&quot;
(Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/1470679.stm)


More up to date, people spent an average of 11 hours 12 minutes per week  listening to BBC Radi0 in the final quarter of last year according to the stats at http://www.rajar.co.uk/listening/quarterly_listening.php, whereas in November and December they spent an average of 8 hrs 37 minutes per week watching BBC 1 and 2 according to http://www.barb.co.uk/viewingsummary/monthreports.cfm?RequestTimeout=500&amp;report=monthtotal (I can&#039;t be arsed to dig into the figures for the BBC digital channels, but I doubt BBC Parliament et al will have that big an effect.  BBC3 and 4 may do.)

Which is better value for money again?  Perhaps it&#039;s the TV channels that should be flogged off...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Martin</p>
<p>Total spending on broadcasting in 2005</p>
<p>Television<br />
£1,473m</p>
<p>Radio<br />
£221m</p>
<p>(Source:http: //www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/10/12/nbbc212.xml)</p>
<p>&#8220;The average person spends more time listening to the radio than watching TV, according to the latest figures&#8221;<br />
(Source: <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/1470679.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/1470679.stm</a>)</p>
<p>More up to date, people spent an average of 11 hours 12 minutes per week  listening to BBC Radi0 in the final quarter of last year according to the stats at <a href="http://www.rajar.co.uk/listening/quarterly_listening.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.rajar.co.uk/listening/quarterly_listening.php</a>, whereas in November and December they spent an average of 8 hrs 37 minutes per week watching BBC 1 and 2 according to <a href="http://www.barb.co.uk/viewingsummary/monthreports.cfm?RequestTimeout=500&#038;report=monthtotal" rel="nofollow">http://www.barb.co.uk/viewingsummary/monthreports.cfm?RequestTimeout=500&#038;report=monthtotal</a> (I can&#8217;t be arsed to dig into the figures for the BBC digital channels, but I doubt BBC Parliament et al will have that big an effect.  BBC3 and 4 may do.)</p>
<p>Which is better value for money again?  Perhaps it&#8217;s the TV channels that should be flogged off&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Broadcast Subsidy &#124; Tim Almond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Broadcast Subsidy &#124; Tim Almond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cleanthes</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/04/11/oh-lord/comment-page-1/#comment-10686</link>
		<dc:creator>Cleanthes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;but I still subsidise it through the licence fee. &quot;

not the World Service it isn&#039;t. The World Service is famously paid for by the FCO. (I know - we pay for that too, it&#039;s just that it&#039;s not the Telly Tax)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but I still subsidise it through the licence fee. &#8221;</p>
<p>not the World Service it isn&#8217;t. The World Service is famously paid for by the FCO. (I know &#8211; we pay for that too, it&#8217;s just that it&#8217;s not the Telly Tax)</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

&quot;And why should people who deliberately use a different technology, the internet, pay for the failures of an old one, TV&quot;

Interesting observation.  I never listen to BBC Radio - except, pfnarr, when I&#039;m on it; did I mention I was on the World Service last week? - but I still subsidise it through the licence fee.  Now,  radio has its fans, but are the listening figures for the &#039;Today&#039; programor   &#039;PM&#039;in the same category as the viewing figures for &#039;Eastenders&#039;? 

If they flogged off the radio, they would be able to save a fortune.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>&#8220;And why should people who deliberately use a different technology, the internet, pay for the failures of an old one, TV&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting observation.  I never listen to BBC Radio &#8211; except, pfnarr, when I&#8217;m on it; did I mention I was on the World Service last week? &#8211; but I still subsidise it through the licence fee.  Now,  radio has its fans, but are the listening figures for the &#8216;Today&#8217; programor   &#8216;PM&#8217;in the same category as the viewing figures for &#8216;Eastenders&#8217;? </p>
<p>If they flogged off the radio, they would be able to save a fortune.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisM</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/04/11/oh-lord/comment-page-1/#comment-10644</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yesterday we were hearing that ISPs wanted the BBC to help fund infrastructure upgrades given the strain that use of iPlayer is putting on their networks. So how about neither pays for the operating costs of the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yesterday we were hearing that ISPs wanted the BBC to help fund infrastructure upgrades given the strain that use of iPlayer is putting on their networks. So how about neither pays for the operating costs of the other.</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/04/11/oh-lord/comment-page-1/#comment-10641</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why doesn&#039;t channel 4 release the public service programs on the internet? Then it will be taxed for making them. Or something...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why doesn&#8217;t channel 4 release the public service programs on the internet? Then it will be taxed for making them. Or something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JuliaM</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2008/04/11/oh-lord/comment-page-1/#comment-10638</link>
		<dc:creator>JuliaM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;...proposals published yesterday about the future funding of &lt;b&gt;&quot;public service&quot; programmes which make little or no money&lt;/b&gt; for commercial broadcasters. &quot;&lt;/i&gt;

If no-one&#039;s watching these programmes, just what kind of &#039;public service&#039; are they supposedly providing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;proposals published yesterday about the future funding of <b>&#8220;public service&#8221; programmes which make little or no money</b> for commercial broadcasters. &#8220;</i></p>
<p>If no-one&#8217;s watching these programmes, just what kind of &#8216;public service&#8217; are they supposedly providing?</p>
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