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	<title>Comments on: Getting Greg Clark Wrong.</title>
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		<title>By: O. C. Alexander</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2007/12/10/getting-greg-clark-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-3949</link>
		<dc:creator>O. C. Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Tim:  Actually, I have read through Clark’s book once, but also previously read his Times article “England’s Success May Be In Our Genes,” (The Times, August 18, 2007), and his paper “Survival of the Richest(JEH, Vol 66, No 3).  Also, the class written about by Austen is a narrow subset of the people that Clark is writing about.  “Howards End” is perhaps a more thorough examination of the mercantile class, but the time period covered here is much later than the period that Clark writes about.  However, to describe the variations of the gentry that Clark hitches his book upon as “bourgeois” or “middle class” is not quite right either, and evades the degree to which the English aristocracy and the landed gentry (as opposed to the mercantile and trade-oriented classes) appropriated huge amounts of wealth before and during the Industrial Revolution.  Further, the social upheaval which dislodged members of the upper class, and which also permitted a rise of the lower classes argues for greater social mobility than Clark appears to want to recognize.

And as Clark is from Scotland (and his grandfathers were both Irish), it is downright bizarre that he would so narrowly focus on England, as opposed to Britain as a whole.  Perhaps he is saving his big guns for a future work, but the lack of a wider British perspective weakens his case.

Apart from this, Clark never makes the genetic – or even social or cultural – connection between the idea of the survival of the richest and his core thesis, that “…the attributes that would ensure later economic dynamism—patience, hard work, ingenuity, innovativeness, education—were … spreading biologically throughout the population,” despite the subtle misdirection of all of the data that he throws at the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Tim:  Actually, I have read through Clark’s book once, but also previously read his Times article “England’s Success May Be In Our Genes,” (The Times, August 18, 2007), and his paper “Survival of the Richest(JEH, Vol 66, No 3).  Also, the class written about by Austen is a narrow subset of the people that Clark is writing about.  “Howards End” is perhaps a more thorough examination of the mercantile class, but the time period covered here is much later than the period that Clark writes about.  However, to describe the variations of the gentry that Clark hitches his book upon as “bourgeois” or “middle class” is not quite right either, and evades the degree to which the English aristocracy and the landed gentry (as opposed to the mercantile and trade-oriented classes) appropriated huge amounts of wealth before and during the Industrial Revolution.  Further, the social upheaval which dislodged members of the upper class, and which also permitted a rise of the lower classes argues for greater social mobility than Clark appears to want to recognize.</p>
<p>And as Clark is from Scotland (and his grandfathers were both Irish), it is downright bizarre that he would so narrowly focus on England, as opposed to Britain as a whole.  Perhaps he is saving his big guns for a future work, but the lack of a wider British perspective weakens his case.</p>
<p>Apart from this, Clark never makes the genetic – or even social or cultural – connection between the idea of the survival of the richest and his core thesis, that “…the attributes that would ensure later economic dynamism—patience, hard work, ingenuity, innovativeness, education—were … spreading biologically throughout the population,” despite the subtle misdirection of all of the data that he throws at the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: john cramer</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2007/12/10/getting-greg-clark-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-3948</link>
		<dc:creator>john cramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all very erudite.
And is this why women&#039;s tits are getting bigger?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all very erudite.<br />
And is this why women&#8217;s tits are getting bigger?</p>
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		<title>By: David VV</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2007/12/10/getting-greg-clark-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-3947</link>
		<dc:creator>David VV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets assume for sake of argument that there is a genetic basis for being musically inclined. ( Ability to differentiate tone or something along that line)
As most people tend to seek partners who have interests similar to themselves would it not make sense that two musically inclined people produce a child with the genetic keys for being musical.  Add to this situation the probable case that the family would very likely give rise to situations that trigger development of this genetically favoured ability and one is left with sexual selection that looks like passing on of an acquired trait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets assume for sake of argument that there is a genetic basis for being musically inclined. ( Ability to differentiate tone or something along that line)<br />
As most people tend to seek partners who have interests similar to themselves would it not make sense that two musically inclined people produce a child with the genetic keys for being musical.  Add to this situation the probable case that the family would very likely give rise to situations that trigger development of this genetically favoured ability and one is left with sexual selection that looks like passing on of an acquired trait.</p>
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		<title>By: So Much For Subtlety</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2007/12/10/getting-greg-clark-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-3945</link>
		<dc:creator>So Much For Subtlety</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just in passing, the Black Death did in fact leave its evolutionary stamp on the European population.  Some genes mean you have a much better chance of surviving it.  When you wipe out a third of the population, you leave behind a very different population.  Haemochromatosis may have become far more common in Europe due to the plague for instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just in passing, the Black Death did in fact leave its evolutionary stamp on the European population.  Some genes mean you have a much better chance of surviving it.  When you wipe out a third of the population, you leave behind a very different population.  Haemochromatosis may have become far more common in Europe due to the plague for instance.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2007/12/10/getting-greg-clark-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-3941</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole argument so far misses the point of evolution as to fail even to be wrong. Go ahead and talk it up, if it makes you feel even better about yourselves. I&#039;ll be over here with science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole argument so far misses the point of evolution as to fail even to be wrong. Go ahead and talk it up, if it makes you feel even better about yourselves. I&#8217;ll be over here with science.</p>
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		<title>By: O. C. Alexander</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2007/12/10/getting-greg-clark-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-3939</link>
		<dc:creator>O. C. Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clark&#039;s case that &quot;evolutionary effects&quot; have taken place is indirect, but is fatally flawed because his underlying data is meaningless.  For example, he assumes that the parentage declared in the geneaological record of the &quot;English&quot; upper class is accurate, but he cannot demonstrate that this is in fact the case.   He has to take people at their word that the fathers of children were in fact their children, which might be acceptable for a gentleman scholar writing about the aristocracy, but is not as acceptable for someone making claims about genes and evolution.  

Clark also incorporates an interesting bias in discounting the offspring of upper class women, born either out-of-wedlock, or to lovers of various classes, who were set aside and not raised by their aristocratic parents.  The fates of these children were often lost to history, but they might still have some genetic impact on English society.

In addition, since the English upper classes were never genetically uniform, I do not how Clark could possibly make any claim about their evolutionary effect on English society.   Native Britons were displaced by Anglo-Saxons, who were in turn displaced by Normans.  Coming closer to the Industrial Revolution, a branch of the aristocracy that was more Scottish and German (after the accesion of George I) displaced any branch that could even remotely be described as &quot;English.&quot;  

In addition to all this, the decision that the English monarch must be Protestant pushed Catholic aristocrats downward on the social ladder, closer to the English middle and lower classes.  None of this had anything to do with genes, but everything to do with the vagaries of historical circumstance.   Clark simply cannot deal with this and tries to wish it all away in various tables and computations.

One could easily make a counter-case that the Industrial Revolution came about in part because the English upper classes at crucial times married savvy middle and lower class people (such as Bess of Hardwick, who at one time was the richest woman in England, apart from Elizabeth I), or Katherine Swynford, a woman of modest background who, as the wife of John of Gaunt, was an ancestor of the Tudor line of English monarchs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clark&#8217;s case that &#8220;evolutionary effects&#8221; have taken place is indirect, but is fatally flawed because his underlying data is meaningless.  For example, he assumes that the parentage declared in the geneaological record of the &#8220;English&#8221; upper class is accurate, but he cannot demonstrate that this is in fact the case.   He has to take people at their word that the fathers of children were in fact their children, which might be acceptable for a gentleman scholar writing about the aristocracy, but is not as acceptable for someone making claims about genes and evolution.  </p>
<p>Clark also incorporates an interesting bias in discounting the offspring of upper class women, born either out-of-wedlock, or to lovers of various classes, who were set aside and not raised by their aristocratic parents.  The fates of these children were often lost to history, but they might still have some genetic impact on English society.</p>
<p>In addition, since the English upper classes were never genetically uniform, I do not how Clark could possibly make any claim about their evolutionary effect on English society.   Native Britons were displaced by Anglo-Saxons, who were in turn displaced by Normans.  Coming closer to the Industrial Revolution, a branch of the aristocracy that was more Scottish and German (after the accesion of George I) displaced any branch that could even remotely be described as &#8220;English.&#8221;  </p>
<p>In addition to all this, the decision that the English monarch must be Protestant pushed Catholic aristocrats downward on the social ladder, closer to the English middle and lower classes.  None of this had anything to do with genes, but everything to do with the vagaries of historical circumstance.   Clark simply cannot deal with this and tries to wish it all away in various tables and computations.</p>
<p>One could easily make a counter-case that the Industrial Revolution came about in part because the English upper classes at crucial times married savvy middle and lower class people (such as Bess of Hardwick, who at one time was the richest woman in England, apart from Elizabeth I), or Katherine Swynford, a woman of modest background who, as the wife of John of Gaunt, was an ancestor of the Tudor line of English monarchs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad that the update was added, because there is no reason to assume that evolutionary effects couldn&#039;t take place over a short period of time. In fact there is a paper that has been published today on just &lt;a href=&quot;http://sci-con.org/2007/12/are-humans-evolving-faster/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;that subject&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad that the update was added, because there is no reason to assume that evolutionary effects couldn&#8217;t take place over a short period of time. In fact there is a paper that has been published today on just <a href="http://sci-con.org/2007/12/are-humans-evolving-faster/" rel="nofollow">that subject</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: O. C. Alexander</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2007/12/10/getting-greg-clark-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-3929</link>
		<dc:creator>O. C. Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree that Clark&#039;s mechanism is a possible one.   He digests a great deal of data, but the large hole in his thesis is he talks a lot about &quot;England&quot; while neglecting the huge fact that a great deal of the success of the Industrial Revolution was due to &quot;British&quot; contributions, i.e., the contributions of the Scots, the Welsh and the Irish, the most influential of whom were not decendants of the upper classes.  Further, his idea that the &quot;English&quot; upper class valued hard work, thrift and other proto-capitalist ideals, is a neo-Victorian myth that is toally unsupported by any reading of actual history.

The great irony of all this is that Clark, and other scientists, understand how to massage data, but not how to apply it to history, while many historians are unnecessarily intimidated by science and anything that reeks of statistical analysis, and so fail to point out the obvious weaknesses in Clark&#039;s thesis.

Tim adds: Umm, no. You&#039;re not understanding what &quot;upper class&quot;  means in English, nor which class Clark was saying outbred the rest.

&quot;Upper Class&quot; means the aristocracy. What Clark carefully proves (this is the soundest part of his research) is that the bourgeois (the middle class) outbred the aristocracy. No one has ever believed that the British (or English) aristocracy valued &quot;hard work, thrift and other proto-capitalist ideals&quot; as anyone who has ever read Austen knows, that would be &quot;trade&quot;. You&#039;ve either not read the book or you&#039;ve grossly misunderstood the points being made. Try again, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree that Clark&#8217;s mechanism is a possible one.   He digests a great deal of data, but the large hole in his thesis is he talks a lot about &#8220;England&#8221; while neglecting the huge fact that a great deal of the success of the Industrial Revolution was due to &#8220;British&#8221; contributions, i.e., the contributions of the Scots, the Welsh and the Irish, the most influential of whom were not decendants of the upper classes.  Further, his idea that the &#8220;English&#8221; upper class valued hard work, thrift and other proto-capitalist ideals, is a neo-Victorian myth that is toally unsupported by any reading of actual history.</p>
<p>The great irony of all this is that Clark, and other scientists, understand how to massage data, but not how to apply it to history, while many historians are unnecessarily intimidated by science and anything that reeks of statistical analysis, and so fail to point out the obvious weaknesses in Clark&#8217;s thesis.</p>
<p>Tim adds: Umm, no. You&#8217;re not understanding what &#8220;upper class&#8221;  means in English, nor which class Clark was saying outbred the rest.</p>
<p>&#8220;Upper Class&#8221; means the aristocracy. What Clark carefully proves (this is the soundest part of his research) is that the bourgeois (the middle class) outbred the aristocracy. No one has ever believed that the British (or English) aristocracy valued &#8220;hard work, thrift and other proto-capitalist ideals&#8221; as anyone who has ever read Austen knows, that would be &#8220;trade&#8221;. You&#8217;ve either not read the book or you&#8217;ve grossly misunderstood the points being made. Try again, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Thomas</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2007/12/10/getting-greg-clark-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-3926</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Fuller, it can be even a fewer number of generations if one is looking for a shift in something, for example a behaviour, rather than waiting for it to become the population norm. 

Tim, I also take issue with your use of Lamarckian inheritance here, though there are examples of this, e.g. the altered alignment of cilia (tiny hairs) on the tiny microbe Paramecium.  However, the terms now used are cultural or memetic evolution, in part to distinguish it from that which Lamarck was commenting upon.  Two reasons for this that I can see a) Lamarck was not talking about the sort of selection we are talking about and thus should not be attributed the credit for it, and b) Lamarckism is so discredited that the label carries controversy with it and so is unhelpful.

I&#039;ve not read the book but I would be similarly uncomfortable about someone talking about potentially genetic mechanisms and Darwinian selection without clarifying very early on whether they were or not and how it affected the predictions of their hypothesis.

Tim adds: This Lamarck and Darwin is purely my own addition. Yes, I understand that it&#039;s incorrect technically. It&#039;s an allegory, no more, and certainly not the way that Clark himself explains it. It&#039;s just that his critics (or at least this one, today) are insisting that as Darwinian evolution doesn&#039;t work with this speed, or that they don&#039;t want to think that being bourgeois is caused genetically, I&#039;m trying to point out that cultural or memetic evolution does happen....and I&#039;m using the term Lamarckian for that, the &quot;inheritance of acquired characteristics&quot;.

Anything wrong with the analogy is purely my fault, not Clark&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Fuller, it can be even a fewer number of generations if one is looking for a shift in something, for example a behaviour, rather than waiting for it to become the population norm. </p>
<p>Tim, I also take issue with your use of Lamarckian inheritance here, though there are examples of this, e.g. the altered alignment of cilia (tiny hairs) on the tiny microbe Paramecium.  However, the terms now used are cultural or memetic evolution, in part to distinguish it from that which Lamarck was commenting upon.  Two reasons for this that I can see a) Lamarck was not talking about the sort of selection we are talking about and thus should not be attributed the credit for it, and b) Lamarckism is so discredited that the label carries controversy with it and so is unhelpful.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not read the book but I would be similarly uncomfortable about someone talking about potentially genetic mechanisms and Darwinian selection without clarifying very early on whether they were or not and how it affected the predictions of their hypothesis.</p>
<p>Tim adds: This Lamarck and Darwin is purely my own addition. Yes, I understand that it&#8217;s incorrect technically. It&#8217;s an allegory, no more, and certainly not the way that Clark himself explains it. It&#8217;s just that his critics (or at least this one, today) are insisting that as Darwinian evolution doesn&#8217;t work with this speed, or that they don&#8217;t want to think that being bourgeois is caused genetically, I&#8217;m trying to point out that cultural or memetic evolution does happen&#8230;.and I&#8217;m using the term Lamarckian for that, the &#8220;inheritance of acquired characteristics&#8221;.</p>
<p>Anything wrong with the analogy is purely my fault, not Clark&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Fuller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Fuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your use of Lamarckian description is appropriate here--with the caveats you employ. FWIW, for some traits scientists have been able to see evolutionary change in as few as 8 generations. Pity none of the species were primates...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your use of Lamarckian description is appropriate here&#8211;with the caveats you employ. FWIW, for some traits scientists have been able to see evolutionary change in as few as 8 generations. Pity none of the species were primates&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, Lamark was describing the transmission of aquired characteristics to explain relatively permanent phenotypic expression over many generations, not cultural transmission to explain single-generational expression of cultural norms.

Yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, Lamark was describing the transmission of aquired characteristics to explain relatively permanent phenotypic expression over many generations, not cultural transmission to explain single-generational expression of cultural norms.</p>
<p>Yes?</p>
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		<title>By: Johnathan Pearce</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2007/12/10/getting-greg-clark-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-3920</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnathan Pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Hayek made a similar sort of point in The Constitution of Liberty. Good post, Tim. I want to read the book. 

I&#039;d be interested to see how that compares to Macfarlane&#039;s The Origins of English Individualism</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Hayek made a similar sort of point in The Constitution of Liberty. Good post, Tim. I want to read the book. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested to see how that compares to Macfarlane&#8217;s The Origins of English Individualism</p>
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		<title>By: Kay Tie</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2007/12/10/getting-greg-clark-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-3919</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay Tie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lamarck was talking about physical characteristics, true. But when people say &quot;Lamarckian&quot; they can also mean social evolution, which (because it is based on memes), can be modeled this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lamarck was talking about physical characteristics, true. But when people say &#8220;Lamarckian&#8221; they can also mean social evolution, which (because it is based on memes), can be modeled this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree; transmission of acquired characteristics is precisely what Lamarckism describes, and is precisely what Tim is describing: traits passed from parent to offspring.

An excellent piece, Tim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree; transmission of acquired characteristics is precisely what Lamarckism describes, and is precisely what Tim is describing: traits passed from parent to offspring.</p>
<p>An excellent piece, Tim.</p>
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		<title>By: dearieme</title>
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		<dc:creator>dearieme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Children tend, on average, to be like their parents.  The reason could be &quot;nature&quot;, &quot;nurture&quot;, or some interaction of the two, in proportions that are still disputed.   For the phenomenon under discussion, the proportions don&#039;t matter as long as children are predominantly brought up by their parents or close relatives.  Like DJ, I think the issue is well wide of  Lamark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Children tend, on average, to be like their parents.  The reason could be &#8220;nature&#8221;, &#8220;nurture&#8221;, or some interaction of the two, in proportions that are still disputed.   For the phenomenon under discussion, the proportions don&#8217;t matter as long as children are predominantly brought up by their parents or close relatives.  Like DJ, I think the issue is well wide of  Lamark.</p>
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		<title>By: David Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cultural transmission, Tim. Or before the wonks got into it ... learning. 

A million miles from Lamark. And Darwin didn&#039;t have the mechanism for inheritance  - he could simply wotk out its nature from an armchair and a very big brain.

Cultural transmission isn&#039;t &#039;best decribed as Lamarkism&#039; in any way, shape or form because what you&#039;re describing here is very exactly not what Lamark was claiming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cultural transmission, Tim. Or before the wonks got into it &#8230; learning. </p>
<p>A million miles from Lamark. And Darwin didn&#8217;t have the mechanism for inheritance  &#8211; he could simply wotk out its nature from an armchair and a very big brain.</p>
<p>Cultural transmission isn&#8217;t &#8216;best decribed as Lamarkism&#8217; in any way, shape or form because what you&#8217;re describing here is very exactly not what Lamark was claiming.</p>
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