Comments on: Polly on Poverty http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/ It is all obvious or trivial except... Wed, 23 May 2012 10:42:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Politics and Religion » safeism dot com http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-12033 Politics and Religion » safeism dot com Wed, 07 May 2008 00:59:11 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-12033 [...] which I feel is so damaging to our society. I find her smug pronouncements on things like CCTV and economics raise my ire like little else can. In addition to role as columnist for the Guardian, Toynbee is [...] [...] which I feel is so damaging to our society. I find her smug pronouncements on things like CCTV and economics raise my ire like little else can. In addition to role as columnist for the Guardian, Toynbee is [...]

]]> By: Jack Stumpff http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-2273 Jack Stumpff Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:45:15 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-2273 So much angst... so much unrest and distrust. Can't we all just get along? (gagging as that phrase crosses my thoughts) If you were real pseudo-dissidents, you'd already be bucking the establishment by browsing with Firefox (chuckling). We all know by not only how corrupt, but how fallible Mr. Gates' products are. Public education is one of the saddest conundrums in existence... if you fund it too much you're 'feeding your children propaganda', but if its is left underfunded, then you're 'dumbing down' your future generations, so they're more susceptible to propaganda. I'll be in the corner drinking my Victory Gin... So much angst… so much unrest and distrust. Can’t we all just get along? (gagging as that phrase crosses my thoughts) If you were real pseudo-dissidents, you’d already be bucking the establishment by browsing with Firefox (chuckling). We all know by not only how corrupt, but how fallible Mr. Gates’ products are.

Public education is one of the saddest conundrums in existence… if you fund it too much you’re ‘feeding your children propaganda’, but if its is left underfunded, then you’re ‘dumbing down’ your future generations, so they’re more susceptible to propaganda.

I’ll be in the corner drinking my Victory Gin…

]]> By: David Gillies http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1122 David Gillies Mon, 22 Oct 2007 02:54:33 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1122 Polly wails that, "low-income children are half as likely to get five good GCSEs as the well-heeled." Given that children in low-income families are likely there because their parents are sub-normal (intelligence is strongly correlated with wealth, and is also heritable), what is she complaining about? Feeble-minded poor people have feeble-minded offspring? Quelle surprise. Toynbee should Google the phrase 'assortative mating'. Polly wails that, “low-income children are half as likely to get five good GCSEs as the well-heeled.” Given that children in low-income families are likely there because their parents are sub-normal (intelligence is strongly correlated with wealth, and is also heritable), what is she complaining about? Feeble-minded poor people have feeble-minded offspring? Quelle surprise. Toynbee should Google the phrase ‘assortative mating’.

]]> By: Philip Thomas http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1039 Philip Thomas Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:43:50 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1039 DK, on IE 6.0.26, I still see the text edging ever leftwards and progressively disappearing into the magnolia surround. Perhaps Tim should just put an "optimised for Firefox and IE 7.x" get-out at the top of his page. DK, on IE 6.0.26, I still see the text edging ever leftwards and progressively disappearing into the magnolia surround. Perhaps Tim should just put an “optimised for Firefox and IE 7.x” get-out at the top of his page.

]]> By: Humaniform » Pretty Polly falls off the Perch ... Again http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1036 Humaniform » Pretty Polly falls off the Perch ... Again Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:17:39 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1036 [...] Tim Worstall has demolished another Polly Toynbee speculation, by applying a few well-targeted facts. Dangerous things, facts - speculation can evaporate like the morning mist: Polly It was a piece of breathtaking cheek and bare-faced larceny when David Cameron pledged to “Make British poverty history” this week, stealing Gordon Brown’s slogan and Labour’s policy stronghold. Cameron snatched the starting day of a month of action on child poverty, run by the End Child Poverty campaign, an umbrella group of 90 children’s charities originally assembled by Gordon Brown himself, as a counterweight against other spending demands. [...] [...] Tim Worstall has demolished another Polly Toynbee speculation, by applying a few well-targeted facts. Dangerous things, facts – speculation can evaporate like the morning mist: Polly It was a piece of breathtaking cheek and bare-faced larceny when David Cameron pledged to “Make British poverty history” this week, stealing Gordon Brown’s slogan and Labour’s policy stronghold. Cameron snatched the starting day of a month of action on child poverty, run by the End Child Poverty campaign, an umbrella group of 90 children’s charities originally assembled by Gordon Brown himself, as a counterweight against other spending demands. [...]

]]> By: Pretty Polly falls off the Perch … Again | The Wardman Wire http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1035 Pretty Polly falls off the Perch … Again | The Wardman Wire Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:16:57 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1035 [...] Tim Worstall has demolished another Polly Toynbee speculation, by applying a few well-targeted facts. Dangerous things, facts - speculation can evaporate like the morning mist: Polly It was a piece of breathtaking cheek and bare-faced larceny when David Cameron pledged to “Make British poverty history” this week, stealing Gordon Brown’s slogan and Labour’s policy stronghold. Cameron snatched the starting day of a month of action on child poverty, run by the End Child Poverty campaign, an umbrella group of 90 children’s charities originally assembled by Gordon Brown himself, as a counterweight against other spending demands. [...] [...] Tim Worstall has demolished another Polly Toynbee speculation, by applying a few well-targeted facts. Dangerous things, facts – speculation can evaporate like the morning mist: Polly It was a piece of breathtaking cheek and bare-faced larceny when David Cameron pledged to “Make British poverty history” this week, stealing Gordon Brown’s slogan and Labour’s policy stronghold. Cameron snatched the starting day of a month of action on child poverty, run by the End Child Poverty campaign, an umbrella group of 90 children’s charities originally assembled by Gordon Brown himself, as a counterweight against other spending demands. [...]

]]> By: devilskitchen http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1034 devilskitchen Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:07:11 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1034 Can any of you guys having problems with the text on the left let me know if it is now fixed, please? DK Can any of you guys having problems with the text on the left let me know if it is now fixed, please?

DK

]]> By: EvaEva http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1033 EvaEva Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:33:01 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1033 Par Part of the problem, is that many people don't actually know what to do with fresh food. How about making basic cooking lessons obligatory for both boys and girls in 6th Form?It would reduce peoples' dependence on ready-meals and so reduce their food bills and reduce obesity as well. Par Part of the problem, is that many people don’t actually know what to do with fresh food. How about making basic cooking lessons obligatory for both boys and girls in 6th Form?It would reduce peoples’ dependence on ready-meals and so reduce their food bills and reduce obesity as well.

]]> By: Cleanthes http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1032 Cleanthes Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:15:45 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1032 It's not so far fetched actually - it's often been said that Tim reads the Guardian so that we don't have to... It’s not so far fetched actually – it’s often been said that Tim reads the Guardian so that we don’t have to…

]]> By: Cleanthes http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1031 Cleanthes Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:15:11 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1031 "I had just assumed that we couldn’t read anything on the left here as part of some clever politcal in joke by Tim" Brilliant! “I had just assumed that we couldn’t read anything on the left here as part of some clever politcal in joke by Tim”

Brilliant!

]]> By: arthur clewley http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1029 arthur clewley Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:57:07 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1029 I had just assumed that we couldn't read anything on the left here as part of some clever politcal in joke by Tim I had just assumed that we couldn’t read anything on the left here as part of some clever politcal in joke by Tim

]]> By: Philip Thomas http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1027 Philip Thomas Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:17:29 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1027 David, I checked using IE6 so seems they've got their act together on the later editions. Besides, I'm doing all this on XP also so I can't be a Microsoft hater. Though it is worth mentioning that I rolled back from Vista so I'm not a fan either. The argument was about browsers, not OSs. The opensource of firefox allows it to be easily customised using the add-ins of yourself or others (e.g. adblock, download toolbar). That function alone is worth the transfer. Tim's blog is just a bonus. David, I checked using IE6 so seems they’ve got their act together on the later editions.

Besides, I’m doing all this on XP also so I can’t be a Microsoft hater. Though it is worth mentioning that I rolled back from Vista so I’m not a fan either. The argument was about browsers, not OSs. The opensource of firefox allows it to be easily customised using the add-ins of yourself or others (e.g. adblock, download toolbar). That function alone is worth the transfer. Tim’s blog is just a bonus.

]]> By: David Davis http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1026 David Davis Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:05:16 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1026 And the sad thing about Polly is that I think she does actually believe all the fascist claptrap that she writes. And the sad thing about Polly is that I think she does actually believe all the fascist claptrap that she writes.

]]> By: David Davis http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1025 David Davis Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:03:20 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1025 Sorry! I mistyped the url for the LA BLOG, the correct one is on this comment. DD Sorry! I mistyped the url for the LA BLOG, the correct one is on this comment. DD

]]> By: David Davis http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1024 David Davis Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:02:31 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1024 I use microsoft 's IE7. (he DOES?????....HuuuuuuuHH?? ..Explorer?) Yup. I can see the whole of Tim's stuff fine. Bill Gates brought most ordinary users of the world out of the darkness of uncomputing, through the dawn of dis-DOSness, (but I liked DOS-5 quite a lot) past the sharp rocks and abti-personnal-mines of alter-OS-Geekness, and towards a largely imperfect world of mostly-computing, most of the time, with mostly poor stuff (and Vista is awful) but this IS still the morning of the world. Why does everybody hate Microsoft? Better things will arrive in time, and in the meantime we should thank the guy, and pity him and his wife, for the UNdoogooders have got their teeth into the ankle of his fortune, and it will surely be wasted on Mercs-4-Jerks. I use microsoft ‘s IE7. (he DOES?????….HuuuuuuuHH?? ..Explorer?)

Yup.

I can see the whole of Tim’s stuff fine.

Bill Gates brought most ordinary users of the world out of the darkness of uncomputing, through the dawn of dis-DOSness, (but I liked DOS-5 quite a lot) past the sharp rocks and abti-personnal-mines of alter-OS-Geekness, and towards a largely imperfect world of mostly-computing, most of the time, with mostly poor stuff (and Vista is awful) but this IS still the morning of the world. Why does everybody hate Microsoft? Better things will arrive in time, and in the meantime we should thank the guy, and pity him and his wife, for the UNdoogooders have got their teeth into the ankle of his fortune, and it will surely be wasted on Mercs-4-Jerks.

]]> By: Cleanthes http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1022 Cleanthes Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:54:02 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1022 Philip, I'm using IE (v7, on XP Pro SP2) and it seems fine to me. Tim, "David Cameron pledged to "Make British poverty history" this week" I can do that: Poverty is henceforward to be defined as an absolute not a relative level. Ta da! I've made British poverty history. Philip,

I’m using IE (v7, on XP Pro SP2) and it seems fine to me.

Tim,

“David Cameron pledged to “Make British poverty history” this week”

I can do that: Poverty is henceforward to be defined as an absolute not a relative level.

Ta da! I’ve made British poverty history.

]]> By: Philip Thomas http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1019 Philip Thomas Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:13:33 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1019 Weird, I've just looked at the site with IE. It does approach being unreadable. But IE is crap and Tim's writings are good, should the latter conform to the former or can we hope that this dilemma inspires others to use better browsers? Weird, I’ve just looked at the site with IE. It does approach being unreadable. But IE is crap and Tim’s writings are good, should the latter conform to the former or can we hope that this dilemma inspires others to use better browsers?

]]> By: Will Blake http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1018 Will Blake Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:40:36 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1018 Well I don't know about you, but I'm going to change my browser, get a new PC and if necessary move house because there's no reason why Tim should be at all bothered to make his blog compatible with Explorer which is inly used by eccentrics anyway. Well I don’t know about you, but I’m going to change my browser, get a new PC and if necessary move house because there’s no reason why Tim should be at all bothered to make his blog compatible with Explorer which is inly used by eccentrics anyway.

]]> By: Kay Tie http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1017 Kay Tie Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:38:59 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1017 "The problem is with your browser. The page displays fine with Safari or Firefox." Yes, but guess who is going to have to change: Microsoft or Tim? Tim adds: The Devil is, well, sometime he will, sort this out. “The problem is with your browser. The page displays fine with Safari or Firefox.”

Yes, but guess who is going to have to change: Microsoft or Tim?

Tim adds: The Devil is, well, sometime he will, sort this out.

]]> By: HJ http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-1014 HJ Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:29:21 +0000 http://timworstall.com/2007/10/19/polly-on-poverty/#comment-1014 Brendan, The problem is with your browser. The page displays fine with Safari or Firefox. Blame Explorer, not Tim! Brendan,

The problem is with your browser. The page displays fine with Safari or Firefox.

Blame Explorer, not Tim!

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