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	<title>Comments on: Interesting Thought</title>
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	<description>It is all obvious or trivial except...</description>
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		<title>By: gene berman</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2007/10/09/interesting-thought/comment-page-1/#comment-718</link>
		<dc:creator>gene berman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, lastly, Mr. Clark might be among those who&#039;d congratulate the foresight of Mr. Mugabe in dismantling the Zimbabwean agricultural system and returning his countrymen to a far less arduous lifestyle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, lastly, Mr. Clark might be among those who&#8217;d congratulate the foresight of Mr. Mugabe in dismantling the Zimbabwean agricultural system and returning his countrymen to a far less arduous lifestyle.</p>
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		<title>By: gene berman</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2007/10/09/interesting-thought/comment-page-1/#comment-717</link>
		<dc:creator>gene berman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must plead ignorance of who Gregory Clark is and his significance.  But, it seems to me, he lacks the ordinary perspective summed up in the common observation &quot;man lives not by bread (food) alone.&quot;  Only when the grapes are ready to hand (and happen to be conveniently ripe) and the wildfowl wander into camp and esconce themselves on spits might it be concluded that the hunter-gatherer life is &quot;less arduous.&quot;  In the more developed parts of the world, a person&#039;s alimentary needs for a day can be met by the expenditure of (on average) about 30 minutes&#039; effort. 

Whatever work might have been associated with furnishing food in those bygone days  when men were actually in a decision-making process between lifestyle choices, my own conjecture is that men compared the negativity of arduousness with another negativity--that of uncertainty as to where one&#039;s next meal was coming from.  I suspect that Mr. Clark might find such uncertainty every bit (and maybe quite a bit more) arduous than that developed and bequeathed to him by his less dream-disposed forbears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must plead ignorance of who Gregory Clark is and his significance.  But, it seems to me, he lacks the ordinary perspective summed up in the common observation &#8220;man lives not by bread (food) alone.&#8221;  Only when the grapes are ready to hand (and happen to be conveniently ripe) and the wildfowl wander into camp and esconce themselves on spits might it be concluded that the hunter-gatherer life is &#8220;less arduous.&#8221;  In the more developed parts of the world, a person&#8217;s alimentary needs for a day can be met by the expenditure of (on average) about 30 minutes&#8217; effort. </p>
<p>Whatever work might have been associated with furnishing food in those bygone days  when men were actually in a decision-making process between lifestyle choices, my own conjecture is that men compared the negativity of arduousness with another negativity&#8211;that of uncertainty as to where one&#8217;s next meal was coming from.  I suspect that Mr. Clark might find such uncertainty every bit (and maybe quite a bit more) arduous than that developed and bequeathed to him by his less dream-disposed forbears.</p>
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		<title>By: gene berman</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2007/10/09/interesting-thought/comment-page-1/#comment-716</link>
		<dc:creator>gene berman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fossils tell us some things.  But, partly because of the paucity of directly comparable evidence and partly because we have no knowledge of what those extant humans thought about their particular circumstances, conclusions beyond physical description (of the fossils) fall into the &quot;speculative&quot; realm. 

The only clear conclusion we are left is that, when presented with a choice of behaviors, the one involving settled agriculture was made with such frequency and met with such success (at survival) of its practitioners, that the mode is nearly universal today.  In the main, today&#039;s hunter-gatherers survive primarily on the conscious forbearance of all us others, somewhat as might be preserved interesting relics in museums (and zoos).

It is vain (though interesting) to speculate on which lifestyle was more &quot;arduous.&quot;  Men compare &quot;better&quot; and &quot;more&quot; with alternatives and have made the choices we call history.  We are entitled to presume that, whatever we may surmise about comparative &quot;arduousness,&quot; things may have appeared differently to those actually making such choices along that way to the present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fossils tell us some things.  But, partly because of the paucity of directly comparable evidence and partly because we have no knowledge of what those extant humans thought about their particular circumstances, conclusions beyond physical description (of the fossils) fall into the &#8220;speculative&#8221; realm. </p>
<p>The only clear conclusion we are left is that, when presented with a choice of behaviors, the one involving settled agriculture was made with such frequency and met with such success (at survival) of its practitioners, that the mode is nearly universal today.  In the main, today&#8217;s hunter-gatherers survive primarily on the conscious forbearance of all us others, somewhat as might be preserved interesting relics in museums (and zoos).</p>
<p>It is vain (though interesting) to speculate on which lifestyle was more &#8220;arduous.&#8221;  Men compare &#8220;better&#8221; and &#8220;more&#8221; with alternatives and have made the choices we call history.  We are entitled to presume that, whatever we may surmise about comparative &#8220;arduousness,&#8221; things may have appeared differently to those actually making such choices along that way to the present.</p>
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		<title>By: dearieme</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2007/10/09/interesting-thought/comment-page-1/#comment-700</link>
		<dc:creator>dearieme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What proportion of  sub-Saharan Africans were hunter-gatherers after, say, 1 AD?  2%? 1%?  Less?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What proportion of  sub-Saharan Africans were hunter-gatherers after, say, 1 AD?  2%? 1%?  Less?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Risdon</title>
		<link>http://timworstall.com/2007/10/09/interesting-thought/comment-page-1/#comment-674</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Risdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For this and other reasons (proximity to sewage, monotony of diet) life expectancy, height and health fell as agriculture was introduced into Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For this and other reasons (proximity to sewage, monotony of diet) life expectancy, height and health fell as agriculture was introduced into Europe.</p>
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